(;FF[4]CA[utf-8]GM[1]SZ[19]
GN[European Youth Go Championship 2013 - U20 - Round 2 - Game 1]
EV[18th European Youth Go Championship]
PC[HU,Budapest]
RO[2 (U20)]
DT[2013-03-08]
PB[Pavol Lisy]BR[6d]BT[SK]
PW[Ali Jabarin]WR[6d]WT[IL]
RE[B+R]
KM[8]
RU[nz]
TM[3600]OT[25/600 Canadian]
ST[2]
C[Xer0 [1d\]: HIIIIII
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the final allready
martin97 [1k\]: with that short time the winner here might lose another game
ponno [9k?\]: the final?
OwyheeMud [9k\]: May I learn, how long until this game starts?
Muttley [2k\]: probably means the two strongest players have been drawn against each other already, ponno
Jahfab [1d\]: he just mean the two stronger player at this tournament
ponno [9k?\]: ah ok
mihi [6d\]: short time?how much you want?9 hours each? 
martin97 [1k\]: no but more than 1hour plus 3x 10min that cost 2 points each
martin97 [1k\]: like 1,5hour plus 15/5 
martin97 [1k\]: its a championship
Ukasuhs [4d\]: ya, 1 hour is kinda short for a tournament
mihi [6d\]: I think it's enough for 6 rounds 
martin97 [1k\]: or even 2 hour 15/5
martin97 [1k\]: its on 3 days
Ukasuhs [4d\]: but you have to remember the players arent playing just 1 game a day, so its got to be paced
DampSquid: so this is the final
bobinski [9k\]: When will this game start????
martin97 [1k\]: i feel 1 and half hour sd is too little
OwyheeMud [9k\]: just asked, no reply
mihi [6d\]: 2 hours each...this means a game could last 4-5 hours 
mihi [6d\]: 2 games 8-10 hours...that's way too much 
martin97 [1k\]: yeah ok thats to much
mihi [6d\]: remember they need at least a 2 hours break between rounds 
martin97 [1k\]: but the minimum should be 1 hour 15/5 and not 3x10min
Ukasuhs [4d\]: but if they were just doing one game a day then 2 or 3 hours isnt unreasonable
bobinski [9k\]: What strength are the contestants????
Mef [-\]: Go tournaments are so hard to run on a schedule with good time controls )=
gooooo [-\]: this game is 2h?
DampSquid: w gives handicap???
bobinski [9k\]: An estimate of the likey time would be helpful.
mihi [6d\]: and there are also strong players waiting to review their games:D...
Staub: When does ist start?
OwyheeMud [9k\]: i don't know who sets ranks expressed... 6 Dan
gooooo [-\]: there is a typo in the title btw
OwyheeMud [9k\]: Staub, we've asked but have not received answers
gooooo [-\]: are they using 8 komi?
Sheriffi [-\]: yes
martin97 [1k\]: 7.5 i think
Staub: Thanks OwyheeMud
kelemenz [2k\]: I dont know whether Podera from Czech is present, but recently he won a tournament űűűwhere lisy was third
Mef [-\]: If it is Ing rules, komi is 8
DampSquid: 8komi is too little imho
martin97 [1k\]: i heard 7.5 by a player there
Mef [-\]: 8 komi -black wins ties, functionally the same as 7.5
Ukasuhs [4d\]: and 7.4
martin97 [1k\]: ahok thanks
Mef [-\]: (If it's Ing, I don't know for sure that it is)
rayheart [1d\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=14637810 Jabarin profile
rayheart [1d\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=12686597 Lisy profile
phi [4d\]: wow what a game coming!!!
DampSquid: is b just reading far into the game at move 1???
phi [4d\]: is there any video from this game?
phi [4d\]: are they both favourites to win?
OwyheeMud [9k\]: DS, no one seems to know
Staub: b is reading the game to the end
PoniPoni: b is probably buying some coffee and cake and slowly wandering to the table, no reading at move 1 lol
jy7661: who is pavol?
jy7661: cheateR?
Muttley [2k\]: yes
jy7661: awesome
huggy [3k\]: the first move is a tricky one
jy7661: finals?
huggy [3k\]: too much choice
Sheriffi [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
PoniPoni: yes he cheats, he uses manipulated stones that can crawl one dot to either direction when the opponent is not looking
jy7661: he is like Mitani
jy7661: ^^
dntan [8k\]: How long before the game start?
Staub: Is Lukas Krämer too old for the Youth Go Championship already?
DampSquid: only too old for U12
jy7661: u12?
Staub: Top age category is U18?
phi [4d\]: 20
Staub: oh
jy7661: can a pro of 12 year old enter on that tournament?
cpog [3k?\]: when does it start?
ponno [9k?\]: in minutes
Robfripp [1d\]: is there already the result for the first round please and where ?
jy7661: i don't have idea
cpog [3k?\]: lol
pok [1k\]: is w known on kgs ?
ponno [9k?\]: yes
jy7661: who is w
ponno [9k?\]: oohaah
jy7661: jarjar ?
jy7661: oohhh
jy7661: the OoohAahh?
ponno [9k?\]: yes
jy7661: nice
martin97 [1k\]: b had27 tournaments last year...
jy7661: both are very good
DampSquid: resign on move 0?
Staub: Shin Jinseo should enter the tournament :) He is like 13 and beat Lee Changho not that long ago ;)
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