(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[Artem Kachanovskyi]PB[Eric Lui]WR[2p]BR[1p]DT[2019-06-30]CP[online-go.com]EV[Transatlantic  Professional Go  Team Championship]RO[7]PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/18494065]WT[EGF]BT[AGA]C[AlphaReader: hi
artem92: hi
S_Alexander: Hello!
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]C[artem92: hi
S_Alexander: Hello!
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;W[dp]C[EnergyBeing: Yoooo
yahel.or.3: gg
izmir: come on Artem
GlennMartenRobin: Yay!
GlennMartenRobin: gg
cornel11: [object Object\]
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;B[cq]C[S_Alexander: Modern.
Cezary: hi everyone :)
GlennMartenRobin: Do AlphaGo ever take another corner now and look at D4 as 3-3-approach move?
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;W[dq]
;B[cp]C[Lord_o_o_Spoon: i dont think it ever played the 3-3 this early. 
S_Alexander: Modern bots always respond here.
💖 KoBa 💖: yiks this is going to get violent ^____^
Decros: the sansan is the opposite of Corner's style, isnt it?
EnergyBeing: Oooh, early fight?
Lord_o_o_Spoon: they always play the 3-3 at this time? 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: what
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;W[cn]C[S_Alexander: 20 minute breaks are a bit sad, maybe they should play music or something.
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Black is literally forcing white to play a more influential style
S_Alexander: It feels so empty.
Lord_o_o_Spoon: i feel like the three three at this point in the game is going to backfire back on to black if im honest. 
Decros: oh not the new taisha again
Lord_o_o_Spoon: I like C6
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It won't Lord spoon
S_Alexander: No, I bet no taisha.
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It's standard at this point.
Owt Reyalp: dc?
str901: b6
S_Alexander: That lightning?
]
;B[co]
;W[do]C[Decros: nice, no taisha
arthurcopping: disconnect
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;B[bn]C[DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: not like in kgs
jackcary: c2
Decros: D16 blue
Cezary: maybe eric's plan is to go crazy in the beggining since artem is so calm player
S_Alexander: are we gonna have connection problems again?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: Surma would appreciate 5mn to reconnect before lossing on lags
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;W[pp]
;B[dd]C[S_Alexander: DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: you can still lose during disconnect. 
Lord_o_o_Spoon: @dio it actually still counts down the main time. 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Thanks for beating a dead horse.
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: so why are they changing servers if it's the same ?
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;W[cc]C[S_Alexander: Super modern. 
izmir: haha
PVTJakE: rOuNd OnE nOt FaIr 
S_Alexander: Dio, cause kgs is terrible?
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;B[cd]C[Lord_o_o_Spoon: poetic symmetry
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;W[dc]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It's is terrible for anyone not in the us
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: true
Cezary: i think people got fed up with kgs
]
;B[ed]
;W[fb]C[DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: sad, it was a great server 10 years ago
]
;B[cm]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Hmm. From move 15: E17 F17 F18 R3 R4 Q3 P4 P3 O3 O2 R17 Q17 R16 Q15 R15 R14 S14 
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;W[dn]C[Voss: this time if the server doesn't respond to your move, the move is sealed and placed as soon as the game is resumed, although such sealing can happen only once, then its losing by time
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;B[cr]C[DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: with legend accounts like the captain or kgshin
Cezary: i wondered recently where is the captain now
S_Alexander: I bought a watermelon today.
]
;W[el]C[JustPanda: and when artem was still 5d on kgs :P
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Obviously the disappearance of twoeyes was the downfall for kgs
peekaboom: I will have to learn how black chose correct direction in top left
]
;B[qn]C[Decros: y r u yellow? :O
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: yeah twoeyes was great, now only bots are 8d
Cezary: peekaboom i think this is against bot theory
S_Alexander: peekaboom: block towards the side you don't want, I think?
jackcary: surprised r6 vs. r3
yago: W better now
S_Alexander: 3-3 should've been better
Lord_o_o_Spoon: anyone got leela up?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: tenuki and san san again ?
Decros: W kick 57,5%
peekaboom: ok, also against my kyu theory you want walk facing your own stone
]
;W[nq]C[Fuseques: there is no money to be made on the lower side, no rush for black to invade
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Stop relying on your shorty AI. And lea
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Learn to play
Decros: what do u mean?
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;B[qp]C[Lord_o_o_Spoon: wow there... calm yourself my dude. 
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;W[qq]C[Lord_o_o_Spoon: AI is a useful learning tool 
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;B[rq]C[TimPeach: Yeah what's all the anger about
Decros: i hope so lol :D
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;W[qo]
;B[rp]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It's not useful. You brain wash yourself to think that?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: AI haters gonna hate
GlennMartenRobin: S5?
]
;W[pn]C[S_Alexander: Yeah, don't feed the troll. 
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;B[ro]
;W[po]C[peekaboom: shake shake shake it ya'll
Lord_o_o_Spoon: really... then someone isnt paying attention to litterally all the top pro players using AI to learn. XD 
AdamR: Please try to keep the discussion polite regardless of potentially different opinions :)
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: W framework, done
]
;B[qm]C[Pond Turtle: nW shuldesente now
Decros: well there's a subtle difference between top pros and all of us :D
Pond Turtle: To expland or play in middle of moyo
Lord_o_o_Spoon: subtle XD 
JustPanda: to me this looks great for black
izmir: we are all pro until here
Lord_o_o_Spoon: im really likeing white actually, and not just because im supporting Artem 
Fuseques: what version of leela are you JustPanda?
kannikka: well, we are allready copying joseki and fuseki, might as well coppy using AI
Decros: K4 56%
peekaboom: I like it where people analyze these games...
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Yeah because everyone's a professional Right?
S_Alexander: Nowadays it's all about reducing, isn't it.
JustPanda: i don't use bot right now, just my opinion
Pond Turtle: white should be careful about not getting locked out of top left quadrant of the board
Pond Turtle: *I think
Pond Turtle: and I am 5k so what do I know
str901: ai>pro anyday
Decros: y r u 2 yellow?? :O
jackcary: 3-3 now
S_Alexander: Pond Turtle: did you like Naoki's today game?
Pond Turtle: damn that was today? you got SGF? pm me please if sop
Decros: y am i not yellow 2?
Lord_o_o_Spoon: he has a golden name because he is a site supporter 
kannikka: of course anyone can be qute and try to put their own spin to everything. That makes the other player really think, but at the same time you cant really fault others from trying to imitate stronger players and learning that way
yago: D12
Razza99: Decros: https://online-go.com/user/supporter
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Actually I can and I will
FriedrichKurt: Does anybody have a winrate ?
Fuseques: r17 does seem to make sense here
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: The only thing you learn is to rely on winrates to decide who's winning.
kannikka: haha, go ahead, I guess people just dont care :D 
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;W[jp]C[Decros: K4 55,8%
TimPeach: Dude even pros learn from AI these days
JustPanda: i hate this kind of shape for white, it feels too wide
Pond Turtle: that feels, slow-ish
snowman: better kibitz assistant than the score estimator
Pond Turtle: I'D feel ok as B here. From move 32: O17 
Lord_o_o_Spoon: i still think white is in great shape. 
Fuseques: though now that i think about it i would probably play on top left as white
TimPeach: But doesn't that mean white has strong posture? @ Pond Turtle
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: That's because they can :D, what's an 11k GUNNA learn from moves he can't even read?
Lord_o_o_Spoon: that he got to play K4 was a really big move 
LANlAKEA: kinda needed to make the bottom work though, cant just let b split you easy
Decros: black has a one more corne
peekaboom: I would be terrified as white
TimPeach: Ok you're definitely a troll LOL
]
;B[pm]C[izmir: oh 
Lord_o_o_Spoon: nah there is lots to be done about that top corner yet 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Am I?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I'm a troll be a Use I'm Right?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Because*
yago: 3_3
Lord_o_o_Spoon: Q17
Decros: no, the other tsuke
peekaboom: Anyon6
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: dont like W position
Cezary: you sound as if you could play better man let people be themselves, why such a strong opinion
Lord_o_o_Spoon: id take white over black in this any day of the week 
Decros: corner, komi, sente and bottom potential?
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;W[qd]C[zapaz: bonsoir. From move 34: 
S_Alexander: I like black but I'd be jealous of white's moyo.
Lord_o_o_Spoon: R16... sweeeeet
peekaboom: Anyone not talking about game at hand is trolling me, regardless opinions on the greater world
Pond Turtle: what a player
S_Alexander: Let's go!
JimmyBergman: What a man.
JustPanda: "What a great master"
Lord_o_o_Spoon: this game is getting super saucy 
💖 KoBa 💖: omg why
GlennMartenRobin: I don't thin I have ever seen a situation where this attach is Leelas best suggestion
Decros: this one was
Cezary: it was ?
GlennMartenRobin: Oh, was it?
Decros: 1st or 2nd
S_Alexander: Nah, bots play attachments all the time.
Lord_o_o_Spoon: ive seen this is a few pro games. its gonna be good 
💖 KoBa 💖: don't get e wrong, i love seeing some blood on the go board, but this is too rough even for me >___<
S_Alexander: 💖 KoBa 💖: well, the start was a bit too calm.
Lord_o_o_Spoon: calm yourself Koba.... i know how youfeel but we must remain CALM!!! 
Decros: G17 or R16 best
Cezary: 1. From move 34: Q15 R17 Q17 R15 R14 S14 R18 S18 S15 Q18 S17 R19 S16 R18 S13 Q14 R13 O17 O14 
Cezary: can black do this ?
Lord_o_o_Spoon: see now i thought G17 but R16 is better i think... directionally 
Decros: black must sansan
Cezary: it looks good for black isnt it
S_Alexander: calm positions benefit weaker player, less opportunities to mess up
Lord_o_o_Spoon: black does not want to three three, because it would make the bottom side group on the right looks silly. 
JustPanda: black seems to have a big dilemma on how to answer
AdamR: Twitch commentary is now live https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
Decros: the difference between the hanes is around 3% :D
Lord_o_o_Spoon: thank you AdamR
JustPanda: psychologically if you take the corner it makes q7 a bit silly
Fuseques: 2. From move 34: R15 R17 S15 
Decros: ok, c u guys, im off to twitch :D
Lord_o_o_Spoon: same 
str901: hm. From move 34: R15 R17 Q15 P18 F17 G18 N15 
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;B[qe]
;W[qc]C[S_Alexander: Wow, suddenly twitch viewership jumped to 1.5k
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;B[re]C[S_Alexander: Front page?
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;W[pc]
;B[od]C[S_Alexander: Yep, front page.
izmir: one more push?
izmir: or keima?
Redcrown: 3. From move 39: O18 
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;W[nb]C[S_Alexander: I like black more.
str901: same
yago: O7
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;B[pq]C[Fuseques: O7 seems like good area but too soft localy
Cezary: this upper right side success for white ?
BadAtBaduk: just an fyi for you fine folks - if you have questions for the twitch commenters let me know & i will pass it on
Fuseques: i wouldn't call having two keimas on the second line success for white lol
Cezary: true
S_Alexander: really? Q3?
]
;W[qr]
;B[pr]C[Cezary: but im talking solely comparing upper left and upper right
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;W[oq]
;B[rr]C[Pond Turtle: If not defended these have questionable shape right?. From move 45: 
S_Alexander: Is it because it makes Q5 worse shape?
yago: Q3 is Kyi move
S_Alexander: Pond Turtle: hehe
str1fe: those are junk stones now
str1fe: if b wants to take them w will let him spend 2 moves
Voss: can someone explain the philosophy behind R2?
str901: white need to put some pressure on the three stones
Uberdude: r2 gets extra forcing moves
Pond Turtle: Wants to put pressureon shape to build up right side
Pond Turtle: *I think
yago: D13
Uberdude: if you just p3 then p2 is not sente
Uberdude: p3 should maybe be at p2 as well, slight order difference
FriedrichKurt: Looks much better for white 
]
;W[cl]C[yahel.or.3: 4. From move 46: 
S_Alexander: Still like black.
izmir: w looks pretty good
Cezary: im anxious about this k4 when e2 is open
Fuseques: k4 was not for territory
💖 KoBa 💖: i kinda like w >___>
Fuseques: i find q3 very questionable with both k4 and q7 in place
]
;B[dm]
;W[em]
;B[bm]C[Fuseques: it's like a move entirely for the sake of points
Fuseques: top left should be more urgent
str1fe: theres no points to be made top left
str1fe: no points attacking or defending
izmir: leela says n16
BadAtBaduk: i mean a base gets you -some- points
JustPanda: maybe he also didn't know where else is big ^^
gor: isnt w already ahead
str1fe: i prefer black
BadAtBaduk: i also prefer black
izmir: n16 %58
Cezary: 58% this early means still kind of even, no ?
str1fe: 58 is even yea
izmir: yeah almost even
Fuseques: even for all human purposes
yago: Q14
yago: Or d13
izmir: %58 gives right to make one little mistake for W. Then even :D
]
;W[nm]C[GOkyle: q14 gets captured by a loose ladder, right?
str901: ???
str1fe: i really dont like htis
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: grown moyo and reduce black's
S_Alexander: everything's according to plan
str901: o8 for black
Cezary: white was afraid of o5 i guess
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: doesnt seems that bad
str1fe: o5 is still a problem
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: artem is a calm player as usual
Cezary: not for the time being i would say ;p
S_Alexander: Point is to make opponent blink first and freak out, right?
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;B[no]C[S_Alexander: Shape point!
Pond Turtle: Lol I called it
💖 KoBa 💖: uh oh
💖 KoBa 💖: overplay?
str901: hmm bit too aggressive here
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;W[on]C[BadAtBaduk: gotta make that aji, ya know
JustPanda: just try to make white feel bad
omi23: O8 would make sense with this shape
Uberdude: interesting that LZ thought q15 was best move after s2
Uberdude: that's how to use territory, cut and attack wall
]
;B[nk]C[meide.xu: [object Object\]
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;W[pf]C[S_Alexander: Attack!
Animiral: if Leela likes the cut, this peep must lose a bunch for destroying aji
]
;B[pe]C[Uberdude: if you can effectivelyt attack the whole group then peep is not so bad compared ot cut
Uberdude: it does make p16 inefficient at elast
]
;W[nf]C[Uberdude: but i tihnk black is possibly easier for humans of this level to play
hexahedron: katago agrees white should have cut, peep loses about 3 points
S_Alexander: White is going to destroy black's moyo, that's good enough.
S_Alexander: hexahedron: do you use katago with lizzie?
izmir:   should hve been light move I think this is heavy
kannikka: Q12 any good?
S_Alexander: Q13?
kannikka: no, whats wrong with Q12?
kannikka: or were you asking me or in general suugesting a move?
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;B[mc]C[S_Alexander: Suggesting. Throwing it out there.
kannikka: I see, sorry, I misunderstood :D 
Pond Turtle: yeah,,,,, no..... From move 57: P8 P7 O8 O6 P4 M6 
Animiral: If I was looking in the general area, I'd prefer p11 over q12
Animiral: for this. From move 57: P11 D8 P8 P7 O6 O8 P9 
kannikka: I see, I meant Q12 for black though. Before N17
kannikka: or instead*
T0T0R0: O17 N15?
Uberdude: q12 for black too passive
Animiral: q12 for black is really defensive. It will justify white's o14 and make it lighter (easier to sacrifice)
Uberdude: white would n16 and connect his stones, black wants to cut
]
;W[me]C[Uberdude: keep o14 weak
kannikka: I see, thanks
]
;B[nc]
;W[mb]
;B[lb]C[Animiral: Can w live in sente? ^^
jf.baraton: [object Object\]
smurph: hmmm. From move 61: P18 S18 
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;W[oc]C[izmir: yeah he found it
Animiral: smurph, more like this. From move 61: P18 M17 O11 S18 
izmir: how can u send variations 
Animiral: tsumego. From move 62: O15 N13 M17 P11 S18 
smurph: You'd tenuki as w?
]
;B[ma]C[Animiral: I'm sure w is asking himself if tenuki is possible
Animiral: If I could read it, I would
]
;W[ob]C[Cyanriddle: Does Black have to play o16 now?
smurph: I wouldn't play O16
S_Alexander: Black has advantage on time.
]
;B[ld]C[S_Alexander: Cuuut!
smurph: W wouldn't cut O16
aieyes: Animitral, did you mean the tautology "If I could read it, I would read it"? :)
]
;W[nd]C[izmir: wow that was a lmistake for Leela
aieyes: *Animiral
smurph: eh
Cyanriddle: :P
Xorax: quote of the day :O
Xorax: " W wouldn't cut O16"
izmir: I mean M16
Animiral: that is not a tautology ^^ Refuted trivially by any instance in which I can read, but don't.
smurph: Well, I'll happily see where w wants to go with this.
hexahedron: test
S_Alexander: Fight! Fight! Fight! 
izmir: R12 L14 K15
Cyanriddle: Black needs to make a base on the right side for his group? So like R12
smurph: I wouldn't have cut :/ Then again I'm not 2p either.
hexahedron: @Animiral katago says white would do this instead. From move 62: O15 M17 
JustPanda: locally the corner looks ko-ish
izmir: can someone tell how to send variations like that :)
Animiral: I protected the wrong cut x_X
S_Alexander: Last game ko didn't work out that well.
Animiral: izmir: go to analysis mode
AdamR: To share a variation, click analysis on the right panel (left/right arrow as a shortcut) > click out your variation > name it   (optional) and click share button (located above chat). izmir 
S_Alexander: Now Black has to really think.
S_Alexander: White got back time disadvantage. 
izmir: thx AdamR
Pond Turtle: ew, thinking
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;B[qh]C[Pond Turtle: I just alternate playing big points and shape points :-D
FahadAhmed: Base!
S_Alexander: "ew, thinking" - plays 2-hour games
smurph: Now w has to fix top right corner *and* the center
Animiral: Cyanriddle called it
Cyanriddle: =)
DenisWeber: K15
smurph: Generally you only want to cut things that aren't alive on their own. Right side is perfectly safe and white seems too weak to attack the top.
smurph: So I'm still not sold on that cut.
LANlAKEA: s16 takes a lib, indirect defense 
Falchion: W O16?
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;W[rd]C[smurph: yea, o16
aieyes: Prolly White has to come back with L14?
Uberdude: LZ wanted k15, attack the top so b has no time to attack cornrer
S_Alexander: I thought one always cuts and then decides if cut should be abandoned. 
smurph: S16 isn't even sente
Cezary: what does leela say now ?
Cezary: as in %
LANlAKEA: but at least the corner lives
izmir: possible. From move 68: M15 M14 L14 M13 L13 M12 L12 M11 
Animiral: Never cut without reading. Read first, then cut anyway.
Conrad Melville: The commentator on Twitch said the O16  cut didn't work, even before it was made.
Falchion: "then cut anyway" haha
Uberdude: This is LZ idea. From move 67: Q12 R11 K15 K16 J15 H17 G16 T18 S18 T17 O19 K18 J16 J17 G17 H18 M19 Q19 R19 Q18 L15 L18 T16 S16 S17 T15 
Uberdude: he was talking about as a first move for white in the area, and he was wrong
Animiral: It's a really old proverb, I don't deserve credit for it ^^
Uberdude: plus was kind of offhand comment
]
;B[kf]C[izmir: w is in trouble
izmir: have to run now
kannikka: would Q12 work now?
Uberdude: q12 is good move to make some shape
Owt Reyalp: shouldnt white have peeped first at L17?
hexahedron: KG thinks white is still okay, starting with Q12 next
hexahedron: game still almost even
smurph: A peep at L17 gets rid of w N16 forcing
T0T0R0: Use R15 damezumari?
キツネ囲碁: 5. From move 69: R13 S13 Q12 R11 
キツネ囲碁: why not this?
キツネ囲碁: 6. From move 69: Q12 R11 
smurph: So, no.
キツネ囲碁: why this
Uberdude: lose some yose on side japanese name 1k
キツネ囲碁: ahh ok thanks
AdamR: Twitch commentary is now live again https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
S_Alexander: haha, exactly 0.0k
Owt Reyalp: :)
S_Alexander: i would abandon playing ranked if i got that
smurph: 2219 is 1d yes
キツネ囲碁: S_Alexander: this is what I did
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;W[ni]C[S_Alexander: white played too calmly and now has to start disadvantageous fight
S_Alexander: i really don't like this because black's pretty safe everywhere 
iloovechess: artem is just bad, why not push and cut?
izmir: Artem "Kaçan"ovski
Pond Turtle: what does LZ think
Animiral: push and cut??
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: "Artem is just bad" lol
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: every one are go speciaist these days
Animiral: aw. From move 69: M15 L15 L16 L17 K16 J17 
hexahedron: katago's var if white pushes and cuts (slight good for black). From move 69: M15 L15 L16 L17 K16 J17 J16 H17 J14 F17 
Animiral: white looks about to die on both sides after that
Cyanriddle: How does Black choose whether to seal White in with a move like N10 or to keep poking and run White's group out into teh middle?
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;B[lj]C[Cyanriddle: ah M10 was better than N10
hexahedron: Wow, don't understand this bot move. From move 71: L13 
S_Alexander: scary for white, i don't like where this is going
hexahedron: 40k playouts, still likes that wacky move best
Animiral: Cyanriddle: it depends. Black must consider the direction where he wants to make profit. Where the white group goes, there won't be any points. Sealing in is often better because you get to control the opponent and get thickness on the outside.
Cyanriddle: Admiral: Ok so I guess it would be hard for Black to profit from a wall on the top because White can reduce the top and left sides?
Uberdude: hexahedron, break out the l14 m10 seems obvious the strategy, though exact move to do so not so easy
Animiral: I don't know which wall you mean. Can you give a variation? :)
]
;W[kh]C[Falchion: the B stones on the M line I think
Falchion: oh, pretty close to that L13
Cyanriddle: Never mind :) I couldn't play out a variation that would turn out like I was thinking
izmir: What about N7 for Black??
hexahedron: good move for white?. From move 71: G17 
Falchion: N7 is pretty far away, it just lets W get away, no?
hexahedron: trouble for black?. From move 71: G17 L12 M15 L15 L16 
]
;B[lh]C[Animiral: hmm, black might need to sacrifice that. From move 71: G17 L12 M15 L15 L16 K16 L17 K17 L18 K18 N16 P13 
sanic_BOOM: The madman! He's going for the cut!
LinnShimon: hard fight
LinnShimon: probably ko
Cyanriddle: Soon they will be in time pressure and then we will see a blunder
Palko: [object Object\]
hexahedron: bots very much do not like black's last move at M12
S_Alexander: Palko!
azazil: What is Leela's judgement of who is winning?
hexahedron: don't know about LZ, but KG says black down to 36% now
LinnShimon: i think w is better
Uberdude: white 67%, last move was biggest mistake of game so far
Animiral: m12 is following white's invitation
hexahedron: (and -5 points)
LinnShimon: M13
jptavan: [object Object\]
Falchion: what was the recommended move if not M12?
newtosenthe: 7. From move 73: M13 L13 M11 L11 N12 K12 N10 
Uberdude: g17
Uberdude: reminds me of alphago vs lee sedol game 3
Falchion: B G17? hm, yeah
Uberdude: sorry, 2 https://www.alphago-games.com/view/eventname/leesedol/game/1/move/81
]
;W[lg]C[Owt Reyalp: oh!
]
;B[kg]C[Uberdude: if there is not a good local move then ignore and connect your weak stones
]
;W[li]
;B[ki]C[Animiral: nice comparison
]
;W[jh]
;B[mi]
;W[mh]C[Uberdude: ZOMGGGGGGG
hexahedron: woah interesting
Falchion: um, that W K12
hexahedron: white counterblunder, game back to evenish
S_Alexander: mmmm, aiming at M15
S_Alexander: ?
Animiral: w plans to live inside and cut at the same time?
newtosenthe: white is look at the cutting black now
]
;B[li]C[Animiral: 8. From move 81: L15 M15 M14 K15 P12 
justanaverageplayer: does w has any plan in the center?
]
;W[le]C[sanic_BOOM: The cross of truth
sanic_BOOM: God shall smile upon the player who plays the cross of truth
sanic_BOOM: Eric has this in the bag
pynxy: What's KG?
Falchion: let's see if there's a B counter-counter-blunder
justanaverageplayer: KG = katago, I presume?
hexahedron: yes
Uberdude: LZ idea. From move 77: N12 K12 R11 S11 S13 S12 R13 Q12 Q13 
justanaverageplayer: uberdude, that's too late now
]
;B[ke]C[S_Alexander: yeah, cornel is wondering
Uberdude: indeed, just illustrating to japanese guy why w r13 was aji keshi
]
;W[kd]C[Decros: no download, wtf?
smurph: Ceterum censeo Katagonem esse delendam.
Animiral: still interesting. Cornel and xhu thought w was going to escape
Uberdude: b can't resist at 6. From move 77: N12 K12 R11 S11 S13 R13 S12 Q11 R10 S10 R14 
newtosenthe: 9. From move 84: K16 L17 L18 K17 J17 J16 K15 J18 H17 K18 H18 M17 H15 
newtosenthe: feel like this is whats gonna happen
hexahedron: Interesting KG idea - don't connect right away, probe first. From move 82: F17 G17 H17 G16 L15 L16 K16 L17 L18 K17 J17 
sanic_BOOM: no need to destroy katago
Cezary: hexahedron, do you think bots like to probe because it destroys mcts tree cache for opponent ?
justanaverageplayer: hmm...interesting indeed
Uberdude: On twitch they mentioned parkjunghawn reversal from 1%, I made a post about that here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/go.igo.weiqi.baduk/?multi_permalinks=10157503473196514&notif_id=1561758268975013&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic
1983: 10. From move 83: L17 M17 L16 L18 K16 J14 K18 
hexahedron: @Cezary - well, the B3 move i nthe variation I posted actually had a specific tactical purpose in that line, so I do like the idea
Animiral: 11. From move 83: L17 L16 M17 N16 
]
;B[fc]C[Animiral: the white stones in the middle are not connected
Uberdude: impressive eric
S_Alexander: hopefully we'll see some more mess ups 
izmir: nice move
Animiral: oh look at that probe
justanaverageplayer: wow...
newtosenthe: can white just extend at G18?
Animiral: I believe he can and he shouldh
💖 KoBa 💖: is the exhange really worth it? . From move 85: L17 E18 
Animiral: no, the corner must respond ^^
izmir: what if hane
Uberdude: exchange plausible
Uberdude: g18 is no good
probicsek: g18 gives another sente? just e18?
Uberdude: because then b does k16 savifice and then b17 and e18 combo
]
;W[jd]C[Animiral: izmir: check out the variation from hexahedron earlier. After hane, black gets h17 forcing and it captures the cutting stone
]
;B[eb]C[izmir: ah
izmir: corner :(
Animiral: oh what the hell
💖 KoBa 💖: oooh wow
Animiral: I should just shut up lol
💖 KoBa 💖: i wish i had the balls to play like this >___<
newtosenthe: Uberdude, but that is ok tho, I just split my groups and make both alive
]
;W[gb]C[hexahedron: big trades
Falchion: G18 now?
Uberdude: you cant make f18 allive after b got wall k16 k17 k18
Pond Turtle: Wow this is kickass furikawari
]
;B[ec]C[Cezary: this is kind of cool for white isnt it
Uberdude: g18 dead now. From move 85: G18 K16 L17 K17 L18 K18 N16 B17 B18 E18 B16 E17 
newtosenthe: H17
Falchion: can W still save that corner somehow?
newtosenthe: uberdude, that is true
smurph: The corner? No.
]
;W[nh]C[smurph: Could reduce the side perhaps.
Uberdude: allowing that e17 conect is ok in opening when you can extend around k17 for the 2 stones
izmir: wow
newtosenthe: hmmm, I thought he must spend a move H17 to fix lol
Pond Turtle: corner is dead
izmir: now there is a certain lead for B
Pond Turtle: But there are annoying forcing moves on outside still
hexahedron: black J17, 72% wr and +8 points
Uberdude: this is greedy
Uberdude: i suppose he wants r11
newtosenthe: C17 corner not dead yet
smurph: In the same vein, R2 is also not dead yet.
izmir: Ko?
]
;B[kp]C[S_Alexander: omg
Uberdude: well this is fun
Falchion: nice
hexahedron: yay more fights
LANlAKEA: no sente no problem ^^
izmir: hane from outside Artem
izmir: pls
Uberdude: tenuki pls
S_Alexander: there're still chances for white so
izmir: sdds
newtosenthe: yeah ur right it is dead, i mispoke, I meant the corner can still generate some usability
]
;W[ko]C[lukas.kramer.739: white is winning no?
justanaverageplayer: it's apparent that b studies a lot of bot's games. :)
Pond Turtle: well if you play a lot of stones that have no usability even after they die....
Pond Turtle: Ypi don't probably get to be a pro
Pond Turtle: maybe honorary one :-D
lukas.kramer.739: l5 i dont get though
]
;B[lp]C[newtosenthe: the fact that they don't fix J17 bothers me lol
smurph: W is trying to isolate the center
mooooo: l5 wants to kill b
Uberdude: bothers LZ too
]
;W[lo]C[izmir: what is happenin
Decros: blacks losin here
Uberdude: wants to tenuki this fight to fix/punish top
Decros: J17 used to be 70%
S_Alexander: clever timesujis
]
;B[mp]C[Laman: Decros: do you still have the world's weakest Leela, or are the percentages really relevant? :)
izmir: wow
izmir: Artem is back in town :D
smurph: https://i.imgflip.com/33sq91.jpg
newtosenthe: heated fight
AdamR: Twitch commentary is now live again https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
mooooo: as w i'D like to play k3
]
;W[lm]C[Animiral: smurph XD 
BadAtBaduk: also, a reminder: if you have questions for cornel let me know, i will pass them on
]
;B[jq]C[BadAtBaduk: just @ me
handyman: j3
T0T0R0: Is black really hoping to achieve anything here?
str1fe: black's just gonna live
str1fe: should be easy life
]
;W[iq]C[LinnShimon: still white will gain alot
Laman: smurph: 90% WR ... ahead by 40% ?
mooooo: 90%-50%=40%
handyman: l2
str1fe: j2
💖 KoBa 💖: w+t ^_____^
hexahedron: example line. From move 98: J2 J4 H2 G3 L2 Q10 S10 H16 
LinnShimon: after L2 white will just J2
izmir: W will get sente
]
;B[ip]C[izmir: right?
]
;W[jo]C[LinnShimon: J2
str1fe: yah
sanic_BOOM:  ye olde bait and switch about to happen?
S_Alexander: still game, right?
str1fe: j4 is weird
hexahedron: it's still anyone's game yes
]
;B[ir]C[kannikka: still a game, about 55-45 for black
moyo takemia: who is win?
]
;W[hq]C[LinnShimon: H2
LinnShimon: one more
lukas.kramer.739: i like white...
lukas.kramer.739: especially after j4
VicktorVauhn: Black seems gangster.
]
;B[hr]C[lukas.kramer.739: seems like a bad exchange
newtosenthe: white L3 then M2?
]
;W[gq]C[str1fe: no, can't give up h3 stones
str1fe: or allow g3 atari
hexahedron: push again?
LinnShimon: true
newtosenthe: not again
hexahedron: KG likes push again by about 9%
str1fe: can just l2
str1fe: b will always have g2 later
str1fe: no?
]
;B[gr]C[izmir: te-nu-ki
str1fe: ah, sente life
]
;W[fr]C[str1fe: i see
hexahedron: J17 now
]
;B[dl]C[str1fe: wat
str1fe: just not interested in top?
newtosenthe: ???
Falchion: left side now
str1fe: i guess e9 is big if w tenuki
AlbertYen: E2 connects so I guess b is safe
S_Alexander: black has moral victory?
Uberdude: good thing b's move with sente wasn't the best
AlbertYen: b is ahead in territory for sure
pynxy: K2 L3 K1
hexahedron: perhaps F2 was too slow
izmir: by the way q2 group is dead :D
str1fe: f2 seems necessary
Uberdude: h16 was more necessary than f2
Uberdude: f3 answer at h5 is not so sad
str1fe: its like 10 point reverse sente
str1fe: more
Uberdude: j17 is more than 10 points sente
AlbertYen: yea
str1fe: fair
AlbertYen: I don't thin D8 is very urgent for black
]
;W[ej]C[str1fe: i dont get this d8
str1fe: apparently it was sente tho
AlbertYen: this exchange is bad for b
Uberdude: maybe you can justify with the "maybe my oppoennt didn't notice that really improtant urgent move somewhere else so i keep tenukiing"
LinnShimon: lol
str1fe: i dont think thats whats happening here
AlbertYen: after H17 for b there's bad aji at B16
pynxy: It's like nobody noticed my tsumego attempt...
AlbertYen: for white I mean
]
;B[pj]C[izmir: haha
AlbertYen: this is a big point for sure
hexahedron: game also even now
]
;W[ok]C[LinnShimon: wow
Falchion: time pressure go, it's almost like blitz at this point
Animiral: pynxy tsumego. From move 107: K2 L3 K1 
Animiral: hmmm
]
;B[oj]C[LinnShimon: K3 not yet LIVE
Animiral: 19. From move 107: K2 L3 K1 L2 G1 L1 N2 
LinnShimon: black dosent have time 
LinnShimon: ya
]
;W[nj]C[izmir: I think it will be hard win for b
izmir: too complicated
]
;B[mk]C[LinnShimon: Q10 was huge
LinnShimon: for both sides
Animiral: w can't save the cutting stone
Animiral: first he needs to kill b on the bottom
hexahedron: tsumego answer according to KG. From move 107: K2 L3 K1 L2 G1 L1 N2 P4 P2 R1 O4 N5 P5 M6 
Owt Reyalp: this?
Animiral: Does KG realize that b is dead?
Owt Reyalp: this?. From move 113: L3 K2 M2 N2 N3 M3 O2 L2 N1 E2 F3 F1 P8 P7 O8 O6 P2 R1 P1 P4 O4 P5 N5 L3 H16 
hexahedron: black is not dead in the tsumego answer, or at least black has 90+% so KG doesn't think it's dead
]
;W[ol]C[Falchion: could W trade the bottom for the center?
str1fe: in that variation white is broken
Uberdude: animiral, w dies first
izmir: P7
martin3141: its only dead if white can safe everything on the outside
LinnShimon: P7
izmir: will he sacriface 5 stones?
Uberdude: i think save 5 and then try to kill lower group
izmir: to attack center?
]
;B[ii]C[izmir: hmmm
LinnShimon: wow
Animiral: oh wow... it looks like w holds together
mimano: [object Object\]
AlbertYen: N7 will be severe later? it seems like this fight will decide the game
LinnShimon: damn pro's
newtosenthe: white's P2 is sente and black cannot respond 
Pandagruel: [object Object\]
]
;W[ih]
;B[om]C[Falchion: now W O8, B O6?
]
;W[nl]C[str1fe: wait, seriously?
LinnShimon: sooooo big
babythinker: Exciting
mooooo: w scareless
moyo takemia: [object Object\]
Uberdude: now b might not cut but h12
Uberdude: he got his p7 probe
]
;B[nn]C[newtosenthe: white should have exchanged P2 earlier
]
;W[hi]C[martin3141: if white had played o6, wasn't this sente against the bottom?
lukas.kramer.739: white should have played l3 k2 m2 earlier
LinnShimon: now it depand on M10
LinnShimon: if its alive or dead
vitamancy: Does B need M10 to live in order to win?
]
;B[ll]C[Go with wind: ko
pynxy: There is still some aji arpund s13
Go with wind: this ko will decide the game
]
;W[mn]C[Uberdude: martin, locally yes, but w had bad aji in centre connection so not a clean kill
Nuelis: 20. From move 122: P4 
Go with wind: w is winning
]
;B[ji]C[babythinker: If he kills
]
;W[kq]C[Falchion: B should have enough eye space to live, I think
S_Alexander: life is hard
pynxy: W can make trouble with p2
Go with wind: what?
AlbertYen: this is timesuji right
AlbertYen: I don't see anything there
nod6: white o4?
AlbertYen: Black can connect
AlbertYen: E2 is still an out
S_Alexander: i'm sleepy
pynxy: W L3
Animiral: 21. From move 124: K2 O4 N5 M3 P4 N3 P5 G1 L2 M2 P2 
]
;B[jr]C[AlbertYen: I guess White does have something here
nod6: m3
AlbertYen: right
Cezary: lost byo yomi for just k2 is somehow disapointing
hexahedron: white lives or breaks in, locally. From move 125: M3 N5 N3 P4 P2 R1 L2 E2 F3 F1 N2 
newtosenthe: p2 and then O4
pynxy: W can at least make seki
AlbertYen: yes
Cezary: i expected tenuki
]
;W[hh]C[nod6: :)
Falchion: was protecting that really that urgent?
pinhead: agressive
T0T0R0: it's looking to kill
]
;B[ml]C[Animiral: Protecting cut points is super urgent. Often the most urgent moves even in fierce fights.
nod6: it is time
]
;W[mm]C[AlbertYen: b is alive now I think
lukas.kramer.739: yes
martin3141: I don't think white is looking to kill
lukas.kramer.739: is h12 enough?
]
;B[kk]C[lukas.kramer.739: i would be trying to kill here
pinhead: b needs to mv to make live?
lukas.kramer.739: with l9
pynxy: K10
Falchion: was thinking K10 to
martin3141: white would need to play k10 now to kill, but that would seem rather desperate
nod6: m4
izmir: I think Eric is going to win
lukas.kramer.739: k10 doesnt work
anton007: [object Object\]
nod6: m3
]
;W[lq]C[S_Alexander: yeah, another win for aga
pynxy: K10 L9 H8...
Uberdude: shoulda p2 first
hexahedron: KG likes white very very slightly right now, but very uncertain
izmir: what is KG
Cezary: katago
mooooo: w points are melting away
Cezary: or in fact
Cezary: kyle gass 
nod6: black losing 
Cezary: from the tenacious d
Falchion: time pressure
]
;B[mq]C[izmir: wowowowowow
sanic_BOOM: the man is confident
anton007: the only way
LinnShimon: O4
Sampi: can somebody share the twitch link again?
izmir: W can save the group now
mooooo: https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb+
Animiral: b is giving back a little bit
Sampi: thanks
mooooo: https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
mooooo: sorry this one
Uberdude: I think artem will o4
dfvgbhnjk: o4. From move 131: 
nod6: why white used one minute?
nod6: o4 is the only move?
pinhead: or tenuki
Animiral: time blunder ^^
hexahedron: O4 leads to white advantage
]
;W[jj]C[Cezary: uuuuu
Uberdude: Eric + lag agains?
sanic_BOOM: fugg
Cezary: boom
pynxy: Yes!!!
Lobos: b16
Animiral: oh sh1t
Sampi: :O
izmir: come on dude
martin3141: wow
Animiral: a move for the audience
Cezary: how about playing r8
martin3141: artem wants blood
Cezary: does kg like this move hexahedron?
Uberdude: ok, creating the option to o4 is thickness option to help in kill
mooooo: with time pressure this just gonna be another kgs game
newtosenthe: I would die 100% of the times as black 
izmir: haahah
anton007: Good timing,now b doesn't have any aji with j4
hexahedron: KG does not like this move (-10% compared to O4)
izmir: hard to live
]
;B[hk]C[handyman: omg
]
;W[kl]C[Cezary: ok i was wondering if its sente
pynxy: Told you...
]
;B[jl]
;W[km]C[AlbertYen: N3 should be at P4 
izmir: black is not happy d8 e10 exchange
AlbertYen: yea
hexahedron: black can get out?. From move 136: H10 K9 F9 E9 G11 
AlbertYen: hmm center is not alive yet apparently
]
;B[fk]
;W[ek]C[vitamancy: Why can't B just play N10?
Animiral: status?. From move 138: N10 
sanic_BOOM: liberties right now
Animiral: ah I'm stupig
]
;B[hj]C[handyman: n10, j8
altugseval: [object Object\]
hexahedron: KG still likes white slightly if white O4 now
vitamancy: I see.  Thanks handyman.
Sampi: O4 is nasty, wow
]
;W[gj]C[handyman: yrw
newtosenthe: looks like a good choice
hexahedron: time for ko?
Go with wind: i hate this, why not just resign
martin3141: Ko?. From move 140: N10 K9 J8 L10 
newtosenthe: many threats with M3
]
;B[mj]C[newtosenthe: yeah for sure ko
]
;W[jk]C[LinnShimon: '
Animiral: on the board is ko and both times are KO
LinnShimon: white got big ko
sanic_BOOM: at least two local threats
sanic_BOOM: for black
]
;B[il]C[Animiral: both clocks*
Yaka_Go: [object Object\]
]
;W[kj]C[Cezary: eric sure likes to tease us with some last seconds move
LinnShimon: N2 big threat for white
izmir: getting more and more exciting
hexahedron: here we goooo
martin3141: If white plays N2 as a threat, black can O4 and white lost a lot
newtosenthe: j5 is also threat for black 
]
;B[ij]
;W[lk]C[Cezary: could black play away somewhere now
Cezary: to create more ko threats ?
Sever1: N13
Uberdude: Goooooooo Artem!!!!!!!!!!
newtosenthe: it is a one step ko
newtosenthe: so no fancy stuff
newtosenthe: lol
BHydden: playing at the last second is normal for pros
KyamiRefur: go go go artem !
nod6: g11
BHydden: they need every second for readin
]
;B[mg]C[Cezary: true, but you know with this unstable connection and all
Animiral: I don't see many threats for w, but b has a lot
Cezary: its not the same as live game :)
ejimliu: fake
izmir: just dont make any mistake artem :D
]
;W[lf]C[pinhead: is that a good threat?
justanaverageplayer: timesuji, i guess
Animiral: maybe some threats are not large enough and both players have only a few
martin3141: how is this a timesuji ...
izmir: N2 is huuuge
smurph: With 1m on the clock, many threats may seem better than they are.
]
;B[kk]C[newtosenthe: black will respond to all the bottom threats
Uberdude: LZ thinks this is a +20% ko threat
Uberdude: so it imsevauated before
]
;W[mr]C[battleporridge: as in, B's winrate just went up 20%?
Uberdude: yes
LinnShimon: N2 like i said ^^
hexahedron: KG thinks game is even, it perhaps doesn't know the result of the ko (186K playouts, +53% black)
Falchion: just finish it at J9? live and live
BHydden: i dunno I've never had connection problems with OGS personally but I hear other do
]
;B[np]C[Pond Turtle: Anyone care to share LZ wr
]
;W[lk]C[Uberdude: black 60% now
]
;B[fj]C[nod6: not a wise move
Pond Turtle: only
LinnShimon: white puts everything on this ko
Uberdude: it thought ko was good for white until b played n13 which gives b more threats
S_Alexander: i just have bad internet connection
Pond Turtle: I'd thought more
]
;W[fi]C[Pond Turtle: can W aford to connect ko now
Uberdude: this is the closest game in this match for a while
]
;B[kk]C[dgreentheawesome: noob here, is P2 a good threat for white now?
newtosenthe: P13 such a comfortable threat
Uberdude: back and forth but awlays within 25-75%
Sever1: P2 ?
nod6: p2
hexahedron: KG 62% for black now
Uberdude: yes p2 a good threat noob
Oni: Wtf
]
;W[lr]C[Animiral: In this game, Artem is so generous. He gave away d17, q4 and will give away middle for a ko threat
nod6: wow
]
;B[op]
;W[lk]C[babythinker: Can b afford to give 5 stones?
LinnShimon: N5 last big ko
hexahedron: b 74% now
newtosenthe: dont understand why he does not play P2 first
LinnShimon: O13
smurph: because w p2, b m2
]
;B[gi]C[S_Alexander: if europe loses we should go rioting on streets like football fans do
vitamancy: and O13 gives another ko threat follow-up.
sanic_BOOM: YEET
]
;W[gh]C[HowsThisGameWork: What about J5? If white fills, then his group is surrounded too.
]
;B[kk]C[pynxy: P2 Q1 G1
Animiral: w loses ko and lost r8 yose too, that was big
battleporridge: yeah i think j5 is a good threat
]
;W[or]C[martin3141: the thing is, starting this ko didn't gain white anything. But due to time, reading this far is so difficult.
lukas.kramer.739: just imgine m2 being at m1.....
martin3141: Like, starting a ko for the entire group is so tempting. But black had too many ko threats
]
;B[oo]
;W[lk]C[Animiral: Uberdude: what were you talking about? ^^
Go with wind: o13
HowsThisGameWork: Yep definitely
]
;B[ng]
;W[og]
;B[kk]C[hexahedron: KG thinks O13 is a blunder
justanaverageplayer: p13 instead?
newtosenthe: that push loses so many points for black
HowsThisGameWork: Now p12 is another
Uberdude: ♫♪ Artem wooo ♫♪
martin3141: black is still vulnerable on the right
anton007: w still has R9 later
Cezary: what threat for white now ?
hexahedron: white is ahead this way now. From move 167: G1 J9 H16 
Animiral: r9
Sever1: G1 kill no?locally
izmir: yes
]
;W[gs]C[Uberdude: BOOYAH!
babythinker: Take ko?
newtosenthe: black F3?
]
;B[ik]C[babythinker: Yup
izmir: now upper side
Pond Turtle: dammit
]
;W[ns]C[izmir: no
babythinker: W lost
newtosenthe: ?
izmir: no no no
mooooo: how can artem be so calm? ©.©
Uberdude: lets hope black still forgot about the top
Pond Turtle: LZ wr now anyone? I doubt W is winning now
Cezary: was o1 a blunder?
Go with wind: F3 looks good
AlbertYen: no
Uberdude: yes, h16 bigger
mimano: W 76%
Pond Turtle: whaaaaaa?!
Pond Turtle: seriously?
]
;B[hc]C[S_Alexander: Artem got it. Let's calm down.
Uberdude: w now only 60% instead of 93%
BHydden: twitch is saying RHS is very weak now
Pond Turtle: still got a chance though
mimano: 82% now
AlbertYen: close game
S_Alexander: RHS?
BHydden: O13 was bad
Uberdude: but thankfully b played wrong move at top
BHydden: right hand side
izmir: so close
Pond Turtle: hmmmm
Cezary: rhs as in royal horticultural society ?
FahadAhmed: RHS?
BHydden: RHS = right hand side
]
;W[jb]C[anton007: 22. From move 171: R9 Q9 Q8 R8 Q11 R10 R11 S11 S10 S9 S12 T10 S13 
Pond Turtle: Cezary hahahaha
]
;B[ic]C[martin3141: what's whites next move on the right?
Pond Turtle: I love you just for using word "horticultural" in a joke
hexahedron: KG estimates white ahead by 3 points
vitamancy: r9?
pynxy: R10 more severe
]
;W[jc]C[Sever1: R13 s13 S12 ?
BHydden: yeah i think they were saying r9 into r10 pish cut were possible but they didn't spend a lot of time on it
]
;B[fq]
;W[fp]C[handyman: buy time move?
pynxy: Nice cross BHydden
chakichacra56782bc0b80a4da6: yep timesuji
HowsThisGameWork: White's group is now questionable.
GuestUser51: [object Object\]
]
;B[ch]C[Uberdude: that b can still get semedori explains why o1 was not worth spending a move on
hexahedron: white up to 90%
izmir: now right side
LinnShimon: last big move
izmir: it is time to attack
Animiral: White's group is not questionable. The question is whether white needs to play all the Xes. From move 177: 
hexahedron: and about 7 points lead
newtosenthe: 23. From move 176: G4 E3 H6 
Uberdude:  not yet, but w c14 is a n aim to activate b16 aji
]
;W[qk]C[HowsThisGameWork: Oh. Thanks. Sorry.
martin3141: here we go
hexahedron: nice move
Uberdude: could be libs shortage on k5 group?
hexahedron: yeah maybe
]
;B[oh]
;W[mf]C[martin3141: black might have to connect underneath with s9?
anton007: The riot is cancelled
BHydden: postponed*
]
;B[pk]
;W[pl]C[Uberdude: this is har din last period
VicktorVauhn: relocated?
VicktorVauhn: I am rioting something...
BHydden: tenuki! :D
]
;B[ql]C[nod6: q11?
martin3141: 24. From move 183: Q11 
]
;W[rg]
;B[qg]C[hexahedron: KG dislikes compared to Q11, +20% for black
]
;W[pi]
;B[qj]C[justanaverageplayer: that's a big jump
]
;W[qf]C[dgreentheawesome: if the group at P10 lives can black kill the white stones in lower center?
vitamancy: No since K3 is dead.
hexahedron: back to 37% for black
Cezary: i think kg was upset on order of moves
]
;B[gp]C[martin3141: this will be decided in yose
chakichacra56782bc0b80a4da6: back to 45% for black on my pc
]
;W[eq]C[newtosenthe: H6
]
;B[rh]
;W[rf]C[justanaverageplayer: can't b save R15 group?
justanaverageplayer: at around move 190
Animiral: see guys, o16 cut was a good move
]
;B[hn]C[HowsThisGameWork: Weird how it works out that way.
LinnShimon: game over
hexahedron: game not over...
]
;W[io]C[Animiral: actually I am wrong, o16 is unnecessary because it cuts two dead groups
]
;B[hp]
;W[fq]
;B[ho]C[sanic_BOOM: WAT
sanic_BOOM: oh
anton007: L2 please
]
;W[kn]C[Cezary: L6
キツネ囲碁: white can tenuki still
Cezary: whew
Cezary: too late
S_Alexander: rioting is still on the table
Cezary: white cannot tenuki
hexahedron: now 60% and +2 points for black
Animiral: This game is a riot
S_Alexander: what a weird move
Uberdude: so j5 was better at j6
hexahedron: L6 is really weird, but correct?
Cezary: what was correct sequence ?
AlbertYen: this move is 2 points better than anything else
]
;B[in]C[キツネ囲碁: why l6 not k6
]
;W[kr]C[Animiral: b wasting ko threats
FahadAhmed: it came down to this!
Cezary: k6 less liberties
izmir: what a game
hexahedron: it's still a game!
AlbertYen: W is not winning right now
martin3141: white needs a solid connection or lose a liberty
izmir: yeah
FahadAhmed: w4 vs. b3 lib
handyman: he is buying time with ko threats
hexahedron: white behind, but only very slightly
]
;B[ib]C[izmir: c10 %80 for b 
izmir: hmm
Cezary: how can this change so dramatically without any non obvious move
martin3141: because its so close
Cezary: ah
Cezary: right
martin3141: obviously small mistakes swing it a lot
]
;W[ia]C[izmir: it is an endgame thing after this
hexahedron: KG says black has a lead, but the difference is only about 1 point... so extremely close
hexahedron: obviously for humans, it's anyone's game if it's that close
]
;B[ha]
;W[ja]C[handyman: c10 now?
skiz7ik: What about this variation?. From move 195: H5 G5 G6 F5 F6 F3 E4 E2 G3 H3 F3 
skiz7ik: it is ko?. From move 195: H5 G5 G6 F5 F6 F3 E4 E2 G3 H3 F3 H1 K1 F1 D2 D1 E1 
newtosenthe: white 67, black 76.5
]
;B[gc]
;W[qi]C[baldor: how does black get 0.5 points?
izmir: sdf
]
;B[rj]C[izmir: oh
newtosenthe: because of the uncertainty for G18 2 stones
hexahedron: at margins this small, bots may start being unreliable, because they assume chinese and 7.5 komi, whereas actually this is japanses and 6.5 komi
izmir: this is mistake for Leela
Uberdude: this is better than expected for my LZ
newtosenthe: if black gets it he gets 8 pts and if white plays he gets 1 point, so (8+1)/2
]
;W[cj]C[izmir: yessss
S_Alexander: bot move
newtosenthe: it happens a lot, in the corners there are many 1/3 points when doing the calculations
izmir: half point game :D
S_Alexander: can there be 1/5 points?
]
;B[ie]C[newtosenthe: no
str1fe: yes
str1fe: it happens with really weird kos
izmir: respect
martin3141: sure, why not
Animiral: wow, I would totally fall into s11 
izmir: good guess for black
Animiral: it's a trap
newtosenthe: explain me how you get 1/5
]
;W[je]C[newtosenthe: it is always 1/3, 5/6, even 1/12
newtosenthe: never 1/5
martin3141: take a point and divide it by five
str1fe: there can be 3-step ko
Cezary: thats a fair explaination martin 
Cezary: i take it
str1fe: need 5 moves from one end of ko to the other
]
;B[oi]C[newtosenthe: lol, good luck finding a game played where you have 1/5
str1fe: so divide final value by 5
izmir: wow
str1fe: well, same for 1/3
LinnShimon: big
hyperpape: Ooh, fun question: what’s the smallest m/n such that there isn’t a m/n point move? 
str1fe: long kos do happen
izmir: chance for w
hexahedron: w B14 now!
yahel.or.3: 25. From move 211: B14 
nod6: black is winning
newtosenthe: not 5 step ko, come on
hyperpape: And by fun, I mean “I don’t understand that stuff and can’t answer it”
str1fe: dont need 5
str1fe: 1 step ko is 1/3
S_Alexander: so close
str1fe: so 2-step 1/4, `3 step 1/5
LinnShimon: how can there be a 1\\3 move?
]
;W[cf]C[S_Alexander: i'd want to see them review this one
Uberdude: oh noes, cornerl was on point with b14 suggestion
Mr.Reese: p11 risky
Cezary: arent kos in chinese rules worth like 1/inf ?
izmir: j14 was sente, why p11
Cezary: where inf is number of dames
Tybalt: There are m/n moves for any m and n
]
;B[dg]C[martin3141: no
martin3141: that's not true Tybalt
str1fe: no
str1fe: bounded by size of board
LinnShimon: too deep
martin3141: Given the board is only 19x19
nod6: corner last battle
LinnShimon: B12?
newtosenthe: ko fight in corner?
hexahedron: w C14 now?
S_Alexander: just goes to show that aga and egf pros are very close in strength 
hexahedron: umm, w C13 now I mean
]
;W[df]C[Uberdude: except Mateusz :p
hexahedron: ko?. From move 213: C13 D12 B16 B15 B18 A16 A17 
Tybalt: Ah, okay, with a restrictiono.the board there are only finitely many values possible
S_Alexander: Didn't Surma lost his game against AGA in China?
Animiral: Does w even have any ko threats?
]
;B[ef]C[Tybalt: But then, that's not fun (imo)
izmir: except top pros every pros are very close to each other
Uberdude: yes surma lost to ryan
Animiral: k7, k6 etc b will win any ko
handyman: who is surma if I may ask?
LinnShimon: where do u see ko in the corner?
to1al: surma lost due to disconnect
Animiral: some guy with slow internet
sanic_BOOM: first eu payer
snakesss: Champion of our hearts
izmir: ahahaha
]
;W[bf]C[hyperpape: Tybalt: it is “fun”, because the number will be some absurdly dumb thing like 123728/3737284848 or whatever
dy_baduk: oh my
hyperpape: But I’ll stop nerd sniping
handyman: I have a cat named Surma :)
S_Alexander: reading is hard here
hexahedron: exciting
Cezary: what does kg say
S_Alexander: i'd resign 
LinnShimon: lol
]
;B[eh]
;W[bd]C[anton007: What
hexahedron: KG says 95% for white, now, black E12 was mistake
izmir: this is it
AlbertYen: I don't think Black can kill
Tybalt: Well, I find it more fun to thi k that any surreal number (including real numbers) can be realized as a board position in some game of go
izmir: finished
Tybalt: Though I haven't seen a proof
newtosenthe: should he have played B11 instead?
Decros: how do i download this SGF??? for LZ
Ajibaba: what  program is k @hexahedron
Ajibaba: *kg?
izmir: gg
S_Alexander: Decros: after the game.
Decros: now ?D
]
;B[bb]C[sanic_BOOM: katago
justanaverageplayer: what is kg and lz's suggestion instead of e12
]
;W[bc]C[hexahedron: KG thnks black should have B12 instead
Decros: after the game too late
AlbertYen: gg
martin3141: I read that some guy invented sureal numbers when he studied go's endgame. Weird concept though, never understood it.
anton007: Ш рщзу Ф
BHydden: you can't until after game
gasana: Many surreal things happen on a go board ;)
anton007: I hope Artem won't lose by time
mark5000: B12 would not be on my radar.
to1al: [object Object\]
justanaverageplayer: i would b11
BHydden: oh wait you can fork the game and then download that one
]
;B[cb]C[dgreentheawesome: okay but John Conway is literally insane
]
;W[bh]C[newtosenthe: 26. From move 222: B11 A12 C13 B13 C11 A17 
Decros: [object Object\]
justanaverageplayer: b11 now?
wurfmaul3: insane? elaborate please
]
;B[bi]
;W[ah]C[AlphaReader: thanks
artem92: thanks
Cezary: gg wp
justanaverageplayer: no sorry, b11 is bad
S_Alexander: gg
💖 KoBa 💖:  gg
BHydden: gg
anton007: gg
evilcat: YES !
battleporridge: gg
Owt Reyalp: GG well done Artem :D 
kannikka: gg
joachim: Yes!
mimano: oh yeah
Animiral: GG
mimano: feels good man
S_Alexander: finally i can celebrate 
💖 KoBa 💖: nice job artem!
BHydden: well played both <3
Animiral: Thanks for playing!
hexahedron: good game!
Uberdude: Artem we love you!
Animiral: and being awesome
Here We Go: Gg
Animiral: Well done Artem!
Murugandi: Dawaj Artem!
FriedrichKurt: Gg
Here We Go: No rioting today, alex
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: Artem the best !!!!
Pond Turtle: CONGRATS TO ARTEM!!!!!
S_Alexander: would anyone strong review this madness?
Pond Turtle: OUR HERO!!!
dy_baduk: Congrats to Artem.
hexahedron: KG's variation, 60% for white, super-unclear (needs more analysis). From move 216: B12 B16 B15 C15 B17 A15 B18 A13 B13 E13 
go khan: black must try to the end...
izmir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY
dol: congratulations to artem and thanks to all involved!
hexahedron: congrats artem
hyperpape: Congrats to artem
Pond Turtle: Winner shall be covered in glory
justanaverageplayer: at move 190, can b save R15 group by playing S14 instead of S12?
hexahedron: justanaverageplayer - how do you respond to this for black?. From move 190: S14 S11 
justanaverageplayer: i see. thanks, hexahedron.
Owt Reyalp: woooow ilya vs ryan next week1!!!
izmir: why ilya? 
justanaverageplayer: still artem, right?
Owt Reyalp: cause artem is getting married
Owt Reyalp: xhu explains it on twitch RN
izmir: he already is
justanaverageplayer: oh, congrats artem!!
izmir: married
BHydden: 2nd wedding
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: ilya vs ryan li will be great
izmir: artem will play
BHydden: artem will play round 9 if ilya loses round 8
izmir: intresting
izmir: ok then :D
dachen11: that's a lot of guests
trohde: I’m late to the party, but … congrats @artem92, and thanks to both!
Fuseques: [object Object\]
Joemac: 61. From move 1: 
MihajloAndjelic: [object Object\]
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