(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[Eric Lui]PB[Mateusz Surma]WR[1p]BR[2p]DT[2019-05-05]EV[Transatlantic  Professional Go  Team Championship]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]WT[AGA]BT[EGF]C[drakula [-\]: Have a nice game
]RE[W+Time]
;B[pd]BL[3592.572]C[Chipotle [?\]: hi, you too
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;W[cq]WL[3588.108]
;B[qp]BL[3577.474]
;W[dc]WL[3583.195]
;B[nq]BL[3559.185]
;W[de]WL[3549.063]C[Fields [4d\]: let's go NA!
measwel [5d\]: fast start
measwel [5d\]:  C3 is a bit of a liability
]
;B[nc]BL[3473.481]C[FightorDie [8k\]: first safe....
Illyria [?\]: eric really likes his 3-3 points
Pupil [-\]: #MS3-0
measwel [5d\]: Its not considered as strong as a move on 4th line
]
;W[md]WL[3530.629]C[FightorDie [8k\]: tenuki
StonedBuda [1d\]: I guess with the larger extention in the bottom right, the 3-3 keeps the bottom open
FightorDie [8k\]: d5?
]
;B[nd]BL[3416.352]C[FightorDie [8k\]: a preair
]
;W[mf]WL[3514.212]C[measwel [5d\]: O16 very solid
FightorDie [8k\]: black nearly won
measwel [5d\]: no Fight.
Lilou [-\]: EU>NA
extrsolid [6d\]: Go Surma!!!
Nirvanc [3k\]: Hello
Nirvanc [3k\]: 4-0
FightorDie [8k\]: most top now
Nirvanc [3k\]: (sorry for the spol =/)
FightorDie [8k\]: bad but it is
Nirvanc [3k\]: spoil
measwel [5d\]: W is fine
]
;B[dn]BL[3320.199]C[measwel [5d\]: wow
StonedBuda [1d\]: nice
FightorDie [8k\]: ynear by me
measwel [5d\]: daring
measwel [5d\]: could end up floating
FightorDie [8k\]: n15 big
StonedBuda [1d\]: it's going to be hard for white to build a lot on the bottom
StonedBuda [1d\]: so i like this move a lot
measwel [5d\]: N15 is nothign
StonedBuda [1d\]: he'll be able to get a base pretty comfortably i think
FightorDie [8k\]: n15...
measwel [5d\]: w can build a base now
]
;W[fq]WL[3426.637]C[measwel [5d\]: and b floats
IkeBrawler [7d?\]: n15 jsut makes the white stones more solid in the center which is what white wants
FightorDie [8k\]: than we play around it
measwel [5d\]: must take care of that floating stone now
measwel [5d\]: I think
Feanor [2k\]: if black does anything on the top, it would be around k16
FightorDie [8k\]: e4?
Feanor [2k\]: but not at the moment
measwel [5d\]: Yes Feanor
bert [?\]: c10?
measwel [5d\]: c10 possibly
measwel [5d\]: but its not great I think
StonedBuda [1d\]: I wonder if he'll play all the way over into whites extention at c 13 or so
hobbj: d14?
]
;B[cj]BL[3192.077]C[FightorDie [8k\]: all read around n 15?
FightorDie [8k\]: pressure of it
Feanor [2k\]: n15 is just bad
StonedBuda [1d\]: n15 is aji for later, but its hard to know what to do with it now
FightorDie [8k\]: never bad
hobbj: I'd be in trouble giving sense to n14 as W
]
;W[ch]WL[3372.356]C[measwel [5d\]: N15 slow now
FightorDie [8k\]: bottem
FightorDie [8k\]: i talk not from now....
Prodigious [-\]: jenkem
measwel [5d\]: He will play on the right side
FightorDie [8k\]: top now not bad
hobbj: m18
FightorDie [8k\]: like l17
bert [?\]: oh, i was thinking e10
TytanPracy [?\]: Who's white?
StonedBuda [1d\]: eric
Illyria [?\]: Eric Lui
TytanPracy [?\]: Thx
hobbj: there will be a stream?
hvk [-\]: k16/ r13/ q10 
bert [?\]: lelliot: Commentary for the Transatlantic Team Championship is on twitch https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
gfdhfff [3k\]: stream is the same as this board, on twich
Bunkrownik [1d\]: https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
FightorDie [8k\]: l16?
Nando [4k\]: j16
hobbj: thx!
FightorDie [8k\]: do it
StonedBuda [1d\]: i think right side is bigger for black than the top just now
Feanor [2k\]: interesting to see which move will b choose now
measwel [5d\]: I would probably play on the right side and maybe sacrifice c10 if w invades
measwel [5d\]: and go of influence
FightorDie [8k\]: right is big 
measwel [5d\]: yes
FightorDie [8k\]: yes i see too
Feanor [2k\]: I dunno, n14 is kind of in the way for tthat
measwel [5d\]: I would consider q10
Lilou [-\]: how is done nigiri?
]
;B[qf]BL[2877.291]C[measwel [5d\]: oh
StonedBuda [1d\]: n14 only deals with the top though, a move on the right would also threaten to make the bottom larger
FightorDie [8k\]: i would taked p13
Feanor [2k\]: conservative and solid
Tollpatsch [4d\]: i like this move
StonedBuda [1d\]: thats a very patient move
measwel [5d\]: seems a bit slow
FightorDie [8k\]: first safe
FightorDie [8k\]: than attack
Feanor [2k\]: it is measwel, but only a bit
Lilou [-\]: N17 but maybe too slow
Tollpatsch [4d\]: it is not slow
Tollpatsch [4d\]: maybe q13 is an alternative
Tollpatsch [4d\]: but hard to call that slow
measwel [5d\]: It has implications for the n16 stones
FightorDie [8k\]: top or not?
measwel [5d\]: yes top
FightorDie [8k\]: show us
measwel [5d\]: question is how
StonedBuda [1d\]: he probably didnt' want to deal with a move like s15 if he extended farther
FightorDie [8k\]: corner is safe now
Tollpatsch [4d\]: this move is just simply better
measwel [5d\]: maybe K16 o try to press with q13
Shineblood [3d?\]: It is strategical drakula wants a strong position to devellop his awesome invasion style
Tollpatsch [4d\]: black will get to play q9 on his terms
StonedBuda [1d\]: eric doesn't have a lot of solid territory yet and r14 secures the corner pretty will while threatening more on the right
hvk [-\]: al d7  
cho7 [14k\]: yes shineblood
FightorDie [8k\]: now the top is to protect
measwel [5d\]: I agree
]
;W[cl]WL[3116.877]C[Tollpatsch [4d\]: locally l17 is the move
Tollpatsch [4d\]: c8 seems wrong
measwel [5d\]: b will take the outside I think
Tollpatsch [4d\]: for sure
StonedBuda [1d\]: white is about to secure some territory
measwel [5d\]: yes
FightorDie [8k\]: c4
measwel [5d\]: no fight
Tollpatsch [4d\]: c8 a bit premature
measwel [5d\]: agree
Tollpatsch [4d\]: but i understand why
IkeBrawler [7d?\]: black was never going to protect that spot since there is no good way to
Tollpatsch [4d\]: it is so hard to make a good move on the sides
FightorDie [8k\]: c9
Tollpatsch [4d\]: maybe o4
Tollpatsch [4d\]: i wonder if bots will play o4 or q4
StonedBuda [1d\]: this makes invasions on the top harder i think
Tollpatsch [4d\]: or even n4
measwel [5d\]: d8
Tollpatsch [4d\]: this would make invasions on the top worthwile
Tollpatsch [4d\]: for now it is too small
kendama [3k\]: b d3
FightorDie [8k\]: d9
measwel [5d\]: interesting
measwel [5d\]: d9 possible
FightorDie [8k\]: c4
measwel [5d\]: One thing is certain. Mateusz is not leading in this game
FightorDie [8k\]: all possible
sprouts [2d\]: Not yet
Feanor [2k\]: it seems quite even so far
FightorDie [8k\]: i see black ahaed
measwel [5d\]: B not ahead.
]
;B[dl]BL[2609.338]C[measwel [5d\]: this is good
FightorDie [8k\]: but nopw he gets all he need
TytanPracy [?\]: C8 bad so must be ahead
FightorDie [8k\]: black can go d11
StonedBuda [1d\]: he's just trying to make shape. a weak group with all that influance is scary
measwel [5d\]: I don't think its bad
GoDave89 [5d?\]: all seems pretty normal so far
FightorDie [8k\]: n15  atreat
measwel [5d\]: I hope b will get a chance to play on top first
Prodigious [-\]: nothing has happened yet, so should be pretty even
FightorDie [8k\]: in moment he not must
GoDave89 [5d?\]: I wonder if wD8 is a good option instead of C8 here
GoDave89 [5d?\]: withh C3 at C4 it is - but how about here?
FightorDie [8k\]: top is not to hold , so
FightorDie [8k\]: in points
measwel [5d\]: I think w might wedge here and b may block on the outside
]
;W[dm]WL[2896.108]C[measwel [5d\]: here is the wedge
GoDave89 [5d?\]: black has already used quite a bit more time
FightorDie [8k\]: e8?
momiji [2d\]: beware the wedgie
r0n1n [3d?\]: from the previous games, it looks like b can definitely handle time pressure
r0n1n [3d?\]: even in his game against ilya at the grand slam, he won while fighting with very little time
GoDave89 [5d?\]: sure - but being able to handle it doesn't mean you have to put yourself into the position ^^
FightorDie [8k\]: pone minute is a good time base
FightorDie [8k\]: now , it is important to think
Concinnity [2k\]: So, answer above or below?
FightorDie [8k\]: d9
]
;B[em]BL[2405.189]
;W[cm]WL[2892.567]
;B[dk]BL[2403.642]C[measwel [5d\]: I love this
Concinnity [2k\]: puling back at d9 immediately would've been too weak. allowing white to push through at e7 would be terrible.
FightorDie [8k\]: c6?
afgani [4d\]: what  is this  game?
Concinnity [2k\]: Transatlantic tournament
]
;W[bo]WL[2808.791]C[Concinnity [2k\]: c6 seems very reasonable
GoDave89 [5d?\]: C6 pushes from behind
Concinnity [2k\]: it was leelas preferred move :)
GoDave89 [5d?\]: B5 keeps the cutting aji alive while not pushing from behind
GoDave89 [5d?\]: so what
FightorDie [8k\]: some to save
Concinnity [2k\]: Well, now black gets to play away
FightorDie [8k\]: f6 , best way
GoDave89 [5d?\]: black always does
TytanPracy [?\]: E4?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: even if you play C6
FightorDie [8k\]: or attack befor
FightorDie [8k\]: c6
Concinnity [2k\]: Where does black go now, top?
]
;B[cc]BL[2298.739]C[sprouts [2d\]: The cut is big I think
FightorDie [8k\]: nice
GoDave89 [5d?\]: probe in the corner first, before deciding how to play on the top side
measwel [5d\]:  wow
GoDave89 [5d?\]: common technique ^^
GoDave89 [5d?\]: though I didn#t expect it quite yet
measwel [5d\]: me neither
FightorDie [8k\]: just a attack
Concinnity [2k\]: Are there any choices other than c16 here?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yes
GoDave89 [5d?\]: D18
FightorDie [8k\]: b18?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: D16
measwel [5d\]: I like this
FightorDie [8k\]: nooo
measwel [5d\]: b prepares a play on top
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah
GoDave89 [5d?\]: C16 gives black outside aji
FightorDie [8k\]: i mean me
GoDave89 [5d?\]: D18 or D16 give corner aji
]
;W[eb]WL[2694.877]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: ah yes, E18 was also anoption ^^
FightorDie [8k\]: c15
GoDave89 [5d?\]: hmm - not sure I agree with it
Feanor [2k\]: but this leaves c14 
measwel [5d\]: c14
Concinnity [2k\]: Hmm, wants trade the corner for the top?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: it leaves corner aji, sure
FightorDie [8k\]: b16
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah, white doesn't want the outside to be weak
Concinnity [2k\]: Something like c14 for a complicated fight
GoDave89 [5d?\]: black won't continue in the corner now usually
FightorDie [8k\]: more solide
]
;B[fl]BL[2204.362]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah
FightorDie [8k\]: pls
FightorDie [8k\]: thx
GoDave89 [5d?\]: wF7 was a pretty big threaat ther for example
afgani [4d\]: are these pros?
FightorDie [8k\]: we all are....
GoDave89 [5d?\]: now that white is savin the outside - black has to strengthen his weak group as wel
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yes @afgani - one aga and on egf pro
GoDave89 [5d?\]: it's aga vs egf transatlantic match
afgani [4d\]: whats their names?
FightorDie [8k\]: now all open for black
GoDave89 [5d?\]: white is Eric Lui
FightorDie [8k\]: just a fun
GoDave89 [5d?\]: black is Mateusz Surma
afgani [4d\]: ah
afgani [4d\]: thanks
FightorDie [8k\]: top is such a pressure
GoDave89 [5d?\]: N17 is pretty big soon
GoDave89 [5d?\]: but right is also interesting somewhat
Feanor [2k\]: "soon" like "now"?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: I wonder
FightorDie [8k\]: to early 
FightorDie [8k\]: nots clear
GoDave89 [5d?\]: E18 certainly indicates interest in the outside and the top
FightorDie [8k\]: i see
GoDave89 [5d?\]: and it is not easy to enter as black - but easy to reduce, soo.. idk
GoDave89 [5d?\]: maybe a bit too early - but it is a pretty big move
EXIT [1d?\]: mabe q4 now?
domie [2k\]: isn't right side now the most important place ?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah I could imagine Q4
Feanor [2k\]: idk if it's so easy to reduce, black's group on the left isn't very strong
FightorDie [8k\]: e10? e11?
FightorDie [8k\]: ohh
GoDave89 [5d?\]: the left side group is pretty thick for now
FightorDie [8k\]: E
domie [2k\]: F8 group is strong
GoDave89 [5d?\]: has easy escapes with G4 and center space
Feanor [2k\]: yeah, but it can become a liability if black jumps deep in the top and w has n17 in place
raleur [1k\]: q4?
]
;W[mc]WL[2377.189]C[Feanor [2k\]: then white can split and attack both sides
GoDave89 [5d?\]: ofc - but we are talking down the line
FightorDie [8k\]: all bl strong
GoDave89 [5d?\]: aaaahyeaaah :=)
FightorDie [8k\]: thats big
siodeux [3k\]: feels slow
GoDave89 [5d?\]: well it is gote
GoDave89 [5d?\]: doesn't make it slow
FightorDie [8k\]: now invastion must be
FightorDie [8k\]: a bit
GoDave89 [5d?\]: but I could also imagine black playing the right side now
measwel [5d\]: or wedge n15
FightorDie [8k\]: not good
FightorDie [8k\]: white has much options
GoDave89 [5d?\]: hmm, the wedge seems to give white more outside strength
FightorDie [8k\]: now , on right
GoDave89 [5d?\]: N14 is already highly annoying
siodeux [3k\]: yes
GoDave89 [5d?\]: otherwise black would hvae big potential
GoDave89 [5d?\]: I wanna play O13, just for the lulz :D
measwel [5d\]: Then maybe L14
Feanor [2k\]: n15 m15 o15 l16 l14 ?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: hmm L14
GoDave89 [5d?\]: so mutual destruction?
FightorDie [8k\]: more j13
Nirvanc [3k\]: N 13 ?
FightorDie [8k\]: and bottem big
measwel [5d\]: b must somehow make use of his strong upper right corner
measwel [5d\]: and the fact w is not yet settled on top I think
]
;B[he]BL[1987.819]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: hmm true
GoDave89 [5d?\]: oh wow
FightorDie [8k\]: yeah
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah, that looks a bit annoying 
FightorDie [8k\]: i like me
mirreke [?\]: that looks scary for black
lal: b M15 good peep or bad idea?
FightorDie [8k\]: easy life , in top
FightorDie [8k\]: or go out
domie [2k\]: H15 is a typical vampire move
GoDave89 [5d?\]: lol
GoDave89 [5d?\]: M15 looks like unnecessary aji keshi to me
FightorDie [8k\]: we are eurpeans....
lal: :o
GoDave89 [5d?\]: later N15 still is annoying 
EXIT [1d?\]: so w needs the garlic tesuji
charm004 [1k\]: H15 looks a bit deep
FightorDie [8k\]: we like blood
GoDave89 [5d?\]: in fact, H15 might be eyeing at that
snowman [-\]: "this is not the best  move... he's testing me..."
GoDave89 [5d?\]: cause whtie has to conect on top
Kraeftchen [4k\]: snowman. :D
FightorDie [8k\]: not a taste
FightorDie [8k\]: ernst
Feanor [2k\]: you're actually right, it does seem a lot like that move
charm004 [1k\]: indeed snowman XD
]
;W[ig]WL[2185.809]C[FightorDie [8k\]: around my points
FightorDie [8k\]: thats hard, even for me....
trohde [-\]: Just in case somebody doesn't know it, here’s the Twitch channel with commentary by Ali Jabarin 29 (EGF) and Xiaocheng-Stephen Hu https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb  
FightorDie [8k\]: what i play? hmm
]
;B[ke]BL[1867.504]C[lal: lol >_> the hell
GoDave89 [5d?\]: oh, that's a nice move
lal: M13 kosumi it up ?
mirreke [?\]: trying to live with 5th line stones?
FightorDie [8k\]: h13 next
ddhytgbdd: or run out
FightorDie [8k\]: b
afgani [4d\]: who is the other guy with  ali?
domie [2k\]: trying to avoid W connect all his stones mirreke imho
mirreke [?\]: stephen hu
lal: also known as xhu
afgani [4d\]: whats his  rank?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: xhu98
GoDave89 [5d?\]: he's egf 5d
afgani [4d\]: thanks
jowels [2k\]: lol
FightorDie [8k\]: l17 all we can have
lal: he's also 5d in talking
]
;W[jc]WL[2054.874]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: hahaha
Nils [1d\]: *he is going to live with 5thline stones
lal: while eric lui is 28k
ddhytgbdd: yes
FightorDie [8k\]: j14
lal: hey this looks like popcorn is needed
dash [-\]: k14?
Mocramis [2k\]: can't black just k14  ?
ddhytgbdd: mant options
ddhytgbdd: many
GoDave89 [5d?\]: K14 is pretty heavy shape
domie [2k\]: why heavy ?
FightorDie [8k\]: k14 bad
ddhytgbdd: i likem14 
FightorDie [8k\]: make j14
Tyger [2d\]: L13
GoDave89 [5d?\]: because you have 3 stones with no eyeshape
FightorDie [8k\]: l15 dead
lal: i'd be tempted to play greedy N18 here, but probably really bad
GoDave89 [5d?\]: N18 is gote and white doesn't care ^^
ddhytgbdd: right
domie [2k\]: B would like to escape without giving up H15 right ?
Feanor [2k\]: either n15 or c17 aji now
GoDave89 [5d?\]: H15 doesn't seem important
GoDave89 [5d?\]: what does it do?
]
;B[jf]BL[1697.553]C[FightorDie [8k\]: perhaps f14, around
lal: xD
GoDave89 [5d?\]: :O
GoDave89 [5d?\]: what? really?
domie [2k\]: ahaha
ddhytgbdd: ha ha
lal: nice Mocramis
GoDave89 [5d?\]: wow... I understand nothing :D
Feanor [2k\]: mateusz must be really confident he can manage that group
domie [2k\]: 5d? are so weak :p
trohde [-\]: commentaire françois twitch.tv/HisokaH
ddhytgbdd: that gives him an exit
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yes, I'm stil pretty weak
FightorDie [8k\]: good one
dash [-\]: well it was a multi purpose move
GoDave89 [5d?\]: so K14 must be threatening something I don#t consider
EricjHan [12k?\]: :^)
EXIT [1d?\]: maybe losing move
FightorDie [8k\]: first make u strong
dsaun [-\]: goDave, i was just about to say thanks for your comments :)
FightorDie [8k\]: than go for kill
GoDave89 [5d?\]: o/ dsaun
dsaun [-\]: o/
GoDave89 [5d?\]: well - I try to make sense of it :D
lal: someone had a list of kgs accounts in his info, i think those "god" were 2x kyu, the "masters" were 1x kyu, etc up to the "idiot" accounts that were high dan
domie [2k\]: ask the 2k, they will tell you 
GoDave89 [5d?\]: hahahaha
ddhytgbdd: k14 show need to save h15 
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah, sdks are the most confident in themselves :P
dash [-\]: w also under some pressure
GoDave89 [5d?\]: so I guess K14 is threatening something like L17 and N15 then?
FightorDie [8k\]: black must top left go
GoDave89 [5d?\]: I sitll don't really get it
dash [-\]: what about L13 and give up one stone?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: it can't be just to connect to H15
dash [-\]: for w
GoDave89 [5d?\]: that would make no sense
dash [-\]: it gives w more influence + power
FightorDie [8k\]: like m14
ddhytgbdd: apparently to him h15 fits his plans
domie [2k\]: I think J13 feels a bit silly now
FightorDie [8k\]: g14 important
GoDave89 [5d?\]: can't wait to hear what Ali has to say about K14 :D
dash [-\]: I don't see a real way to keep pressuring black much longer
Judoka [1k\]:  personally i think the threat is to j13
lal: someone tell artem not to leave the "cheque" and  envelope he officially got at the grand slam price giving ceremony carelessly lying around at the venue after he left, it's bad style >_>
GoDave89 [5d?\]: J13 seems pretty light though
Judoka [1k\]:  If it gets cut off, that's a good target to harass as b builds territory
mirreke [?\]: will take them half an hour at least to get there
dash [-\]: why is L13 so bad?
ddhytgbdd: judoka what rank are u in Judo?
dash [-\]: L13 and give up J13
Judoka [1k\]: 3rd degree brown ddhytgbdd
lal: w L13 hardcore go!
FightorDie [8k\]: after live that group, black won
lal: oh wait, that doesnt work
ddhytgbdd: nice Yonkyu here
lal: hey w has no good answer lol
domie [2k\]: L13 would ba like you don't answer a peep
dash [-\]: so?
dash [-\]: does that automatically make it bad?
domie [2k\]: only the fool doesn't answer the peep
jowels [2k\]: å
lal: it's a sacrifice
domie [2k\]: this is a saying
]
;W[pc]WL[1608.36]C[FightorDie [8k\]: l13 , is the problem
lal: i can hear inseong's voice here >_> "kick!"
FightorDie [8k\]: o14 solid
]
;B[qc]BL[1650.943]C[FightorDie [8k\]: more solid
]
;W[qd]WL[1587.515]C[FightorDie [8k\]: ahh , i have it
FightorDie [8k\]: r15
GoDave89 [5d?\]: so yeah - this is the problem I have with K14 - white can just get outside forcing moves no from that corner 
jowels [2k\]: lol
GoDave89 [5d?\]: so what is blacks heavy group really doing?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: if not eyeing things like the N15-wedge
FightorDie [8k\]: s188 perhaps
dash [-\]: N15 doesn't seem to work
FightorDie [8k\]: 16*
domie [2k\]: why do you pretend this is a heavy group ?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah @dash
GoDave89 [5d?\]: that's what I msaying
]
;B[rd]BL[1554.694]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: pretend`?
gobb [5d\]: huh
GoDave89 [5d?\]: how is it not?
dash [-\]: it looks fine
domie [2k\]: tell us, we want to be taught
FightorDie [8k\]: like me, 
gobb [5d\]: now p16 r15 o15 is a thing
dash [-\]: not heavy but not alive at all
GoDave89 [5d?\]: it has no eyesapce
FightorDie [8k\]: i transilvanian
lal: now w O18?
lal: with this w could get O15 in sente
GoDave89 [5d?\]: that is 3 heavy stones if yI have ever seen'em :D
Feanor [2k\]: you can't kill that which has no life
domie [2k\]: I don't feel these 3 B stones as a heavy group at all
FightorDie [8k\]: white must right
FightorDie [8k\]: but top
ddhytgbdd: i like a lose move like l12  for b
GoDave89 [5d?\]: 3 stones is a big investment to just sacrifice
GoDave89 [5d?\]: at least 3 stones like that
dash [-\]: hmm if you could move 1 of the 3 which would it be and where?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: and if they have to escape and ave no shape locally and not many sabaki options - that's heavy for me
domie [2k\]: but why wanting a sacrifice ?
KhaoKhat [-\]: Sr, I just come, which three stones?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: light stones means, you can sac any of them anytime
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;W[od]WL[1427.264]
;B[qe]BL[1550.912]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: this just feels so bad for black imo
domie [2k\]: H15K14L15 KhaoKhat
KhaoKhat [-\]: Oh thanks
dash [-\]: well usually it means that PLUS that they have no flexibility
]
;W[ne]WL[1373.879]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: that for me means flexibility
momiji [2d\]: yeah liking w
GoDave89 [5d?\]: light = flexible
]
;B[oc]BL[1525.186]C[Bunkrownik [1d\]: leela says b  38% winning percentage
GoDave89 [5d?\]: I just don#t see what the prospect for those stones is
dash [-\]: so which would you move?
Lilou [-\]: getting O15 Sente?
Mocramis [2k\]: why does black save those two stones ?
momiji [2d\]: w has splitting attack
Mocramis [2k\]: they do not feel that important
Illyria [?\]: w is super solid if he captures those two stones
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah, they are really big 
GoDave89 [5d?\]: because of power
Mocramis [2k\]: yeah, but i hardly see black being able to attack those now :s
GoDave89 [5d?\]: it changes everything
jowels [2k\]: lol
lal: still wondering if it wasnt even a bit better to add w o18 before o15, just so b never gets n18/o18
FightorDie [8k\]: l12 b
GoDave89 [5d?\]: there is a lof of weaknesses still levt
GoDave89 [5d?\]: giving the two stones, might as well resign :D
Mocramis [2k\]: ok ok :)
Mocramis [2k\]: thanks 
ctdogpdf: k12 ?
FightorDie [8k\]: oh sente after p15
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;W[kg]WL[1234.578]C[dash [-\]: eh
lal: :D
GoDave89 [5d?\]: P15 is not good
dash [-\]: 2 predictions come true :)
FightorDie [8k\]: g14
GoDave89 [5d?\]: later white might want to force from the O18-direction
sprouts [2d\]: What did w gain with q17 sequence
GoDave89 [5d?\]: outside strength
EXIT [1d?\]: interesting move
GoDave89 [5d?\]: O15
Illyria [?\]: L15 in sente
GoDave89 [5d?\]: wasfor free
Illyria [?\]: L15
Illyria [?\]: O15
lal: wondering how easy b will get D14 after this J13 sac
SAlexander [?\]: So how is the game looking?
]
;B[jg]BL[1439.914]C[ctdogpdf: interesting
]
;W[jh]WL[1227.314]
;B[ih]BL[1438.205]C[ddhytgbdd: not sure those two stone were worth that exchange
extrsolid [6d\]: savin the stones keeps the peep
TytanPracy [?\]: H14?
lal: game looks relatively even? but b might get nice influence here
dash [-\]: maybe a ko cut?
TytanPracy [?\]: H13*
dash [-\]: extrsolid: is there some ko aji?
F0re [2k\]: could white try to fight with J14?
]
;W[if]WL[1141.327]C[F0re [2k\]: black might not answer
KhaoKhat [-\]: Keep the beep?
]
;B[ie]BL[1433.556]C[F0re [2k\]: there it is :)
GoDave89 [5d?\]: :O
lal: wow w wants to keep left side oO?
dash [-\]: oh sacrificing L13?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: ah
]
;W[kf]WL[1126.415]
;B[je]BL[1432.378]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: no L14 t
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah
F0re [2k\]: ok black answered
]
;W[hg]WL[1117.312]C[ctdogpdf: emptry triangle wins the game
F0re [2k\]: white goes for it :)
lal: lol wow
dash [-\]: wow, this seems fragile ^^
lal: isnt this toooo much by w?
ctdogpdf: korean style ^^
Pupil [-\]: white says : i ll kill you
KhaoKhat [-\]: Impressive sequence 
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah, this looks ballsy
ctdogpdf: maybe not kill
fekand6 [1k\]: l12
ctdogpdf: but if w gets outside
ctdogpdf: thats big
lal: b G13 imo, go crazy >_>
]
;B[ii]BL[1382.336]C[GoDave89 [5d?\]: not yet
Mocramis [2k\]: nice shapes :p
GoDave89 [5d?\]: first force outside
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah
F0re [2k\]: that's sente
Feanor [2k\]: leela thinks this sequence was extremely bad for white
GoDave89 [5d?\]: this threatens to capture K12
Pupil [-\]: leela is right
lal: now w must commit and add a move at H13 i think
GoDave89 [5d?\]: @feanor, doesn't surprise me :D
]
;W[ji]WL[1088.201]C[lal: wow
ctdogpdf: no choice
lal: awesome game lol
ctdogpdf: so
kjh97 [-\]: game over for w...
ctdogpdf: g13 ?
ddhytgbdd: well this is where the rubber meets the road
snowman [-\]: careful reading required
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yeah
extrsolid [6d\]: indeed
KhaoKhat [-\]: 4 matchs for team EGF?
lal: actually if b could just J10 here..
lal: that might be best?
ctdogpdf: what tournament is this ?
KhaoKhat [-\]: Matches*
Feanor [2k\]: rather for team surma
ctdogpdf: (sorry wasnt there earlier)
Feanor [2k\]: transatlantic something
fekand6 [1k\]: m15
ctdogpdf: team us vs team europa ?
Nils [1d\]: h10?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: aga vs egf
Feanor [2k\]: yes
GoDave89 [5d?\]: this is the 4th match
]
;B[gg]BL[1211.625]C[evilCat [1d\]: https://transatlanticgo.org/
ctdogpdf: thx
F0re [2k\]: i was wondering about the nose
ddhytgbdd: good mv
GoDave89 [5d?\]: dracula aka Mateusz won the first 3
F0re [2k\]: but was thinking maybe too direct
SAlexander [?\]: boom
KhaoKhat [-\]: Surma looks like Fan Tingyu
ctdogpdf: in a nongshin cup style ?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yes
lal: w h12, b j10 a given?
Feanor [2k\]: winner keeps playing, loser gets replaced by next from their team
hvk [-\]: h12 g12 h11 j10 h10 h9 
Feanor [2k\]: but this game is the 4th surma is playing ^^
SAlexander [?\]: surma vs world
Lilou [-\]: 4 on 5 he will play
lal: i'd like to keep option for b g11 jump, so i'd go b J10 directly after w h12
Bunkrownik [1d\]: 75% for black says leela
lal: heh
dash [-\]: just G17 too slow?
snowman [-\]: leela's mind changes so quickly :)
SAlexander [?\]: more like 85
hvk [-\]: gg b
ZeNit [?\]: yes, still very early
KhaoKhat [-\]: Where is captain America?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: :O
GoDave89 [5d?\]: wow
SAlexander [?\]: but if black captures H13 it's over?
lal: how about w just K10 maybe. Or not efficient enough?
lal: damn i have no idea where to go for w
dash [-\]: I would play G17 but I feel like it's a move saying "I already lost"
ddhytgbdd: yes w must save toses stones
ToDie [1d?\]: g14 and h12 seem like the only moves
ddhytgbdd: soo run out 
jowels [2k\]: lol
rsgk [1d?\]: What is this match? (I'm on mobile and cannot check the beginning)
lal: :)
lal: transatlantic tournament, aga pros vs eu pros, game 4
lockhart [4d\]: boy is f8 shining right now
GoDave89 [5d?\]: haha, indeed
ctdogpdf: this is funny the ranks
ctdogpdf: egf guys are all 2p 
rsgk [1d?\]: Oh, cool! Who are the players in this game?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: no, Ilya is 3p ^^
ctdogpdf: didnt ryan won a top pro ?
Mocramis [2k\]: isn't shikshin 3p ?
Judoka [1k\]: Mateusz Surma 2p is Black and Eric Lui 1p is White
Bunkrownik [1d\]: rsgk Chiptle(1p AGA) drakula (2p EGF)
trohde [-\]: drakula – Mateusz Surma 2p EGF, Chipotle – Eric Lui 1p AGA
Canadian2D [-\]: AGA pros need to study more
ddhytgbdd: dont understand w's options
ddhytgbdd: seems he must run
rsgk [1d?\]: Great, thanks! Go Surma!
Feanor [2k\]: white's options are bleak
ToDie [1d?\]: w can g14 before running
ToDie [1d?\]: maybe
ddhytgbdd: yes
ddhytgbdd: two options
]
;W[np]WL[699.807]C[ZeNit [?\]: or that
KhaoKhat [-\]: I heard EGF pros use Galaxy for training
ToDie [1d?\]: okay, wow^^
ddhytgbdd: lol he out  there
lal: haha, w had no idea either >_<
lockhart [4d\]: my god.... 
KhaoKhat [-\]: And AGA is not
Mocramis [2k\]: Oo
Dream [3d\]: painful
lal: oh wait, it breaks the ladder ofc
Illyria [?\]: is this attempting to affect the ladder?
lal: after b L12 cut
lal: yeah
lockhart [4d\]: there are vital stones in an empty triangle about to be eaten in the center of the goban...
lal: b J10 would threaten botgh, b G11 and b L12 cut
myongstu [6d?\]: leela sees b at 80%
lal: so this probably tries to fix L12
extrsolid [6d\]: Go Surma!
ddhytgbdd: this dosnt break the ladder
Tollpatsch [4d\]: i would play h12
dash [-\]: J14 and L14 seemed just too much
ddhytgbdd: but it is sente of sorts
SAlexander [?\]: EGF had some exibition games against Golaxy long ago when they played in Chinese league.
jakubiszon [5k?\]: doesn't look like breaking the ladder yet
lockhart [4d\]: eric is deep in his own mind right now
ctdogpdf: h12 p3 ?
lal: huh it does break ladder
ZeNit [?\]: I'd play g12 immediately here
ddhytgbdd: nope
Dream [3d\]: k10 looks good
ddhytgbdd: no ladder break
fekand6 [1k\]: o5
dash [-\]: maybe a ladder around J12? that would be far in the future though ^
lockhart [4d\]: i think you gotta just h12
Lilou [-\]: i think surma will p3
ddhytgbdd: couls play it big at g11 
sagesse [-\]: l12 maybe?
dash [-\]: heh or L12 now to make the game completely confusing
ddhytgbdd: ye
Tollpatsch [4d\]: g11 has some bad aji
ddhytgbdd: p
Feanor [2k\]: m15 if you're going to attack white
dash [-\]: what about J18?
dash [-\]: it kind of saves b's group because of M15 + cut
Tollpatsch [4d\]: after g11 j11 black can hardly play h10 because of g12 f12 g14 aji
Tollpatsch [4d\]: ah sorry
Tollpatsch [4d\]: i am wrong
Tollpatsch [4d\]: there is a net
lockhart [4d\]: Surma if you do not take those stones Fujisawa Shuko's ghost is gonna come kill you 
GoDave89 [5d?\]: lol
ddhytgbdd: i dont see the aji
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: there is a net working for H13 stones?
Feanor [2k\]: yes dash, but it should be better to m15 and cut first, as it threatens more than one white group at the same time
JeansebL [1d?\]: Loll
afgani [4d\]: dont you mean fujisawa sai?
dash [-\]: seriously what about J18?
]
;B[mp]BL[884.621]C[ZeNit [?\]: j18 looks very random
Tollpatsch [4d\]: he means fujisawa hideyuki
KhaoKhat [-\]: Wow
Mocramis [2k\]: is answering that big
Mocramis [2k\]: ?
]
;W[oq]WL[682.684]
;B[op]BL[881.1]C[dash [-\]: well w can try to attack w if no response
]
;W[no]WL[679.757]C[dash [-\]: oeh b
ddhytgbdd: now that's and interesting way to handle p3 
Tollpatsch [4d\]: shuko is a misspelling of hideyukis kaji
Tollpatsch [4d\]: *kanji
Judoka [1k\]: w is attacking w is an intriguing strategy, dash
ddhytgbdd: b likes to hane
Judoka [1k\]: However did you come up with it?
bert [?\]: and proper spelling is kuranosuke
Nirvanc [3k\]: p5 ?
]
;B[mo]BL[810.329]C[dash [-\]: I mean b can attack w if no response
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: w will have the ladder if b p5
Laman [1d\]: Kuranosuke is a different Fujisawa
dash [-\]: and if w responds I think the exchange will be good for b at this time
ddhytgbdd: b seems to be in contol $500 on black to win !
ddhytgbdd: any takers?
GoDave89 [5d?\]: yes, i'll bet on black then :P
ctdogpdf: this is crazy
lal: wow, L12 cut just got more valuable
ctdogpdf: they both going for the throat
GoDave89 [5d?\]: I wanted to have an interesting game, god damnit...
rsgk [1d?\]: Who has played so far in this tournament?
Prodigious [-\]: mateusz
gobb [5d\]: black seemd good
lal: what does leela say? i'd guess 85% black
lockhart [4d\]: if ryan has to sweep for the AGA to win thats gonna be a rough ticket for the young lad
AlexKun [1k\]: 75% for black
ddhytgbdd: the thing is b is getting his way all over the board
Uberdude [6d\]: mateusz power!
ddhytgbdd: ?
ZeNit [?\]: well, this looks complicated
StonedBuda [1d\]: ryan is pretty good
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: If that one Mateusz will win, I wonder what AGA team will think about  EGF...
lal: well, what can w do except for O6?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: or how bad they will feel :(
Tyger [2d\]: 80% for black (Leela)
gobb [5d\]: crazy^^
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: history of GO in North America is longer then in Europe
tymak [-\]: but is fair to say, mateusz is on fire nd maybe stronget EGF pro at this moment
StonedBuda [1d\]: is it?
StonedBuda [1d\]: i thought germany was the first western country to start playing
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: nope
lal: er, go came to America through europe
ddhytgbdd: seems strange but america is somewhat closer to Asia
lal: in 193x Lasker emigrated to US and founded the NY go center
Uberdude [6d\]: the pacific is very big
ddhytgbdd: so is theusa
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: The earliest go players in North America were probably Chinese workers toiling on the transcontinental railroad in the mid-1800s, but if so the game did not attract notice outside the Chinese-American community.  Go first came to the attention of Westerners in the early 1900s when a group of German mathematicians and game players stumbled upon it, including Otto Korschelt and Edward Lasker, a cousin of the legendary chess legend Emanuel Lasker and himself a well-known top player. With Lee Hartmann (editor of Harper's magazine) and a few others, Lasker formed the American Go Association in New York in 1937.
jakubiszon [5k?\]: So what year did Germany 
HKA [3d?\]: Certainly the European Go Congress is far older than the US one
jakubiszon [5k?\]: So what year did Germany start?
ddhytgbdd: ok whats w thinking?
bert [?\]: a bit after slovenia, i understand
StonedBuda [1d\]: how fucked he is
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: the game was slow to spread and it was not until 1957 that the first regular European Championship was held.
Hammer: don't think it matters when it started, but how popular it is right now, with strong player base you can cherry pick best players and create strong "top bar"
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: so US, started REALLY in 1937
bert [?\]: it does matter how it started
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: in EUROPE, 1957
ctdogpdf: its interesting how it started
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: no, it does not ^^
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: just wondering
ctdogpdf: its part of history
SAlexander [?\]: white has no time
ddhytgbdd: ok gentelmen
ctdogpdf: the history toward the solution of the game of go
renkfull [4k\]: w needs a ladder breaker on bottom right ?
Feanor [2k\]: founding the AGA and holding the first eu championship aren't the same level events
Uberdude [6d\]: The Cambidge tournament is named Trigantius, on honour of a monk in the 17th century who went to china and wrote about go, before USA even existed 
Feanor [2k\]: your reasoning is flawed
lal: :O
bert [?\]: a group of austro-hungarian naval officers formed first go club in Pula, now croatia, in 1905
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;W[nr]WL[124.437]
;B[mq]BL[807.57]
;W[pp]WL[122.819]C[ctdogpdf: oh
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: nice!
ddhytgbdd: YEAH
ddhytgbdd: he moved
ctdogpdf: well
ctdogpdf: lets see
]
;B[oo]BL[790.134]
;W[po]WL[119]
;B[nn]BL[788.873]C[ctdogpdf: wow
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: that was fast
ddhytgbdd: lol b takes a whole 3 sec to respond
lal: hello b L12
Uberdude [6d\]: what to we expect in top left, ko?
KhaoKhat [-\]: In the first game, both two teams give the strongest out so...
]
;W[pq]WL[99.492]
;B[jj]BL[780.385]C[ctdogpdf: b has sente
lal: >,>
Welvang [6d\]: that is really bad decision imo from black
ddhytgbdd: oh my
Feanor [2k\]: what's the point of l12?
ctdogpdf: and gained a solid group
ddhytgbdd: thats a big corner
Dream [3d\]: just k10 should be better?
Welvang [6d\]: b was ahead pretty solid, giving up corner and points for potential is definitely not a good strategy
ctdogpdf: i prefer b
dash [-\]: w has more territory
dsatkas [?\]: hi
Welvang [6d\]: i mean it's the best way to give a chance to white
ctdogpdf: p6 looks like big endgame
bert [?\]: turtle shell is worth 60 points
Uberdude [6d\]: welvang, you prefer p5 to n5?
Welvang [6d\]: B has a shimari > gives a 15pts corner to white
KhaoKhat [-\]: Where are b territories now?
ddhytgbdd: k10 to fast imo
ctdogpdf: maybe b can g4 next ?
Welvang [6d\]: with n3 stone can you really call it turtle
sprouts [2d\]: Only the blue steel
sprouts [2d\]: Shell
Werfeus [2d\]: in english we have this expression: b is fucked
dash [-\]: ddhytgbdd: he already read it before I assume
ctdogpdf: byo yomi
Tollpatsch [4d\]: b is fine
ZeNit [?\]: It's a misformed turtle, ok? Don't bully it
Welvang [6d\]: Yes i do uberdude
YoungPro [-\]: I don't quite understand this lower right for b
Welvang [6d\]: also i would have kept the corner instead of n4, i don't feel it was really interesting direction
ddhytgbdd: k10 or r7 ???
YoungPro [-\]: isn't it good for white with this F3?
measwel [5d\]: I think b chose this variant because it ended in gote for w. 
Welvang [6d\]: + g4 shoulder hit, white couldn't build anythign
]
;W[li]WL[60]OW[5]C[ctdogpdf: is there a commentary ?
Welvang [6d\]: even just playing p4 after o4 is really fine
PondTurtle [3k\]: yes thetre is
mishu [7k?\]: https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
PondTurtle [3k\]: https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
bert [?\]: q6 looks  senteish for b
Welvang [6d\]: Ali <3
trohde [-\]: French / François: https://www.twitch.tv/hisokah
PondTurtle [3k\]: LZ says 86% for B btw
dash [-\]: L12, then M14?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: 865!
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: *86%!
Welvang [6d\]: Hollande ?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: wow
dash [-\]: BL12 W L11 B M14 W M13 B M15?
lal: could b perhaps just G3 here?
]
;B[kj]BL[683.922]C[jakubiszon [5k?\]: How does Leela Zero compare in strength to pro players?
dash [-\]: well I guess not
ddhytgbdd: q10  is begginning to be no mans land
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: L10 is slow?
Uberdude [6d\]: so LZ does prefer p5 too over n5
momiji [2d\]: thick
lal: well, probably w responds  to it tho
lal: so L10 not gote i thiiink?
Uberdude [6d\]: also really wants to m15 sente
PondTurtle [3k\]: jakubiszon LZ is probably superhuman on strong hw at this point
ddhytgbdd: true
lal: hm safe move might be w o11, but looks so dame =_=
ddhytgbdd: m15  is getting big
dash [-\]: M15 -> now w will just give up L14
]
;W[hp]WL[60]OW[4]C[Uberdude [6d\]: interseting how valuable lz thinks m15 reverse sente is for white
dash [-\]: that's why I wanted to pla L12 and M14
Uberdude [6d\]: strength of groups is so important
PondTurtle [3k\]: M15 is pretty important it can separate potentialy no?
ddhytgbdd: yes
dash [-\]: but it doesn't do much?
Uberdude [6d\]: yes, peep push cut
dash [-\]: just endgame now
]
;B[le]BL[626.226]C[Welvang [6d\]: s6 is the move ?
ddhytgbdd: lol
dash [-\]: imagine the same without L10
ddhytgbdd: true
Uberdude [6d\]: oh devious, also sets up m18
lal: hm wonder why LZ prefers w m15 over w O11 tho
Uberdude [6d\]: that is powerful
ddhytgbdd: right
]
;W[me]WL[60]OW[4]C[lal: ahh because of that ok
]
;B[lf]BL[623.725]C[dash [-\]: I feel like this is too overconcentrated/small now
momiji [2d\]: man w's attack fizzled
afgani [4d\]: R7?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: L3? :)
lal: w's top group's base starts to float a bit...
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: and give away the group?
]
;W[mg]WL[60]OW[4]C[StonedBuda [1d\]: ouch
dash [-\]: why ouch? it's kind of a wasted b move L10
lal: Q10?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: yes, L10 was wasted move
dash [-\]: but I still prefer B
Uberdude [6d\]: hmm, l10 could have started at m14
fekand6 [1k\]: c16
afgani [4d\]: b R7
dash [-\]: I had a sequence above
afgani [4d\]: or r5
afgani [4d\]: w is not that bad actually
lal: C14 still open too
Dream [3d\]: b somehow needs to convert all the strentgh to points now
]
;B[ep]BL[477.949]C[Uberdude [6d\]: speaking of turtles, here is an interesting turtle shin ninjun allowed in a pro game
Uberdude [6d\]: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?p=243116#p243116
Tollpatsch [4d\]: black is winning no?
afgani [4d\]: what does  leela  say now about  the  game?
PondTurtle [3k\]: 83 B
Bunkrownik [1d\]: 74% for black
TytanPracy [?\]: D18
]
;W[eq]WL[60]OW[4]C[afgani [4d\]: if w gets R7 hes fine
lal: E4 looks strange
ddhytgbdd: e4 good sent mv
PondTurtle [3k\]: Bunkrownik what version do you have :-O
lal: isnt it aji keshi? oO
retroblack [-\]: 81% B
Nils [1d\]: r3, r5 or q6?
ZeNit [?\]: Uberdude I saw that sequence in another pro game recently, I guess it's joseki now
measwel [5d\]: b will separate w on top
YoungPro [-\]: I think right now the result of black on lower right is surely bad, but i might be completely wrong.. 
measwel [5d\]: b gave up huge corner there but got sente to play k10
dash [-\]: YoungPro: how's the continuation for b there? from the outside or inside?
Lukan [7d?\]: personally it doesn't fit to my style at all, but objectively, b is completely fine including the lower right
Tollpatsch [4d\]: thanks Lukan
dash [-\]: I feel like b should play from the inside
Uberdude [6d\]: interesting zenit, do you have link?
lal: b cant afford to make another slouch move i think or w takes back the lead?
YoungPro [-\]: I thought he don't necessarily need to play N4 in this situation where there is always some sente's on center for white.. hmm
]
;B[db]BL[229.278]C[ZeNit [?\]: I only remember it was a Japanese game, I think the players were So Yokoku and Yamshita Keigo, Uberdude
KhaoKhat [-\]: But how can b take territories (in the bottom) after give away the corner? 
KhaoKhat [-\]: D18 wow
HappyLook [9d\]: Mateusz is on fire this spring :)
dash [-\]: R5?
ZeNit [?\]: It was broadcast on IGS
Uberdude [6d\]: http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/84130 Thanks!
YoungPro [-\]: Ali, said same just now, makes sense
YoungPro [-\]: About the N4 I mean
bert [?\]: just you wait till summer
ddhytgbdd: i still liker7 
TytanPracy [?\]: B+T
ZeNit [?\]: Yep, that's it. Good find!
]
;W[dd]WL[60]OW[2]C[littlewolf [1k\]: ...
KhaoKhat [-\]: Ko?
fekand6 [1k\]: b18
Shineblood [3d?\]: tenuki
Tyger [2d\]: Leela says M18
Uberdude [6d\]: LZ says locally blank should have c16 and can just live
Uberdude [6d\]: because white needs to defend e15 cut
Uberdude [6d\]: c16 c15 d16 e16 d18 e17 b15 b14 b16 
ZeNit [?\]: yeah, but d18 looks really cool, so
dash [-\]: B15 maybe?
Uberdude [6d\]: all these exchanges make me worry a bit
]
;B[eg]BL[76.234]C[Uberdude [6d\]: like he doesn't have clear game plan
Uberdude [6d\]: this doesnt feel good
leely [8d\]: -10%
Uberdude [6d\]: will get painful kikashi from 3 stones aji
lal: well still corner-ko available to alleviate worries a bit
Uberdude [6d\]: helps white fix his problem and doesn't cleanly fix his
Tyger [2d\]: -13%p
YoungPro [-\]: This is so weird move
]
;W[cf]WL[60]OW[1]C[Hammer: aiming at compliating for timesuji?
PondTurtle [3k\]: ouch
PondTurtle [3k\]: white is at sudden death
leely [8d\]: -7%
]
;B[bb]BL[44.006]C[leely [8d\]: -2%
lal: ^^
Uberdude [6d\]: so he wants f18 or f17 or e17 later
dash [-\]: is b aiming to attack something?
Hammer: m18?
sprouts [2d\]: B16?
ddhytgbdd: -2.46389
]
;W[bd]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[fb]BL[41.417]C[ZeNit [?\]: wants to attack n15 group prehaps?
Feanor [2k\]: ofc he wants to
dash [-\]: well if this somehow works then E13 isn't so bad ^^
lal: not sooo easy to attack tho >_>
]
;W[ea]WL[60]OW[1]C[lal: wow
Feanor [2k\]: and surma has the uncanny habit of seeing through visions like this
Uberdude [6d\]: i still don't like e13, lost chance to do something in that corner in overitme when eric messes up =)
Feanor [2k\]: for sure it isn't easy
fekand6 [1k\]: e17
ZeNit [?\]: But Mateusz is not the one with time troubles for once :)
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: ^^
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: wait ;)
]
;B[dp]BL[60]OB[5]C[ddhytgbdd: yes what is his plan her
dash [-\]: what's that move??
ddhytgbdd: ha hell think about it later
FightorDie [8k\]: i have so much probs
lal: i'd F17 as w now..
Uberdude [6d\]: "keep playing sente moves until i have an idea of a plan"?
FightorDie [8k\]: uhh
FightorDie [8k\]: b ok?
afgani [4d\]: R7
]
;W[dq]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[ho]BL[60]OB[5]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: Uberdude that means time-suji
Babibo [3d?\]: Sorry if this has been asked 12 times, but who is white ?
afgani [4d\]: eric lui
ddhytgbdd: run low on time move
dash [-\]: this at least makes use of L10
Uberdude [6d\]: making points with thickness?
Babibo [3d?\]: aaah c'est lui !
gasana [-\]: back to 50-50 almost
jakubiszon [4k\]: white - North America
Uberdude [6d\]: little points
lal: what does leela say?
NeaFanica [1k\]: What is Leelq saying?
PondTurtle [3k\]: that last B move was -20% mistake
]
;W[go]WL[60]OW[1]C[afgani [4d\]: it feels like  right corner is more important
]
;B[hn]BL[60]OB[5]C[leely [8d\]: only 14.2
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: what is current %?
dash [-\]: hmm w in SD that's also a factor
ddhytgbdd: b is make a rather nice sized ctr
snowman [-\]: fifty-sixty
]
;W[ip]WL[60]OW[1]C[Uberdude [6d\]: mateusz couldn't find a good gote move so he plays bad sente ones instead?
ZeNit [?\]: I think your Leela broke, snowman
ddhytgbdd: now time to expand right side?
]
;B[jo]BL[60]OB[5]C[Lukan [7d?\]: somewhere around R5 is urgent
afgani [4d\]: R7
NeaFanica [1k\]: Right side is long overdue...
ddhytgbdd: i vote r7
Feanor [2k\]: my leela doesn't like k5
dash [-\]: well not much potential in the right
SAlexander [?\]: wow, what happened?
dash [-\]: maybe an attack on w
Shamash [?\]: seems small
dash [-\]: but the corner is so big
KhaoKhat [-\]: Surma really makes points from the thickness
]
;W[qn]WL[60]OW[1]C[dash [-\]: ouch
ddhytgbdd: OUCH
ddhytgbdd: junks
ddhytgbdd: jinks
PondTurtle [3k\]: damn
PondTurtle [3k\]: damnation
SAlexander [?\]: has surma got cocky?
dash [-\]: R7?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: Is this a transatlantic pro game?
PondTurtle [3k\]: yes
PondTurtle [3k\]: it is
Warfreak2 [3d\]: Awesome
PondTurtle [3k\]: Now we can only hope for SD inspired mistake
]
;B[ro]BL[60]OB[5]C[ddhytgbdd: ha
Lukan [7d?\]: aha
KhaoKhat [-\]: It's a big big move
dash [-\]: oh wow
afgani [4d\]: oh?
SAlexander [?\]: still it's not really over
Welvang [6d\]: lol
Hammer: lo
ctdogpdf: ouch
Warfreak2 [3d\]: Lukan detected
ctdogpdf: over
lal: popcorn
Uberdude [6d\]: haha, even though ww did tight r6 not r7, stll inside
SAlexander [?\]: surma needs to channel inner sai
ddhytgbdd: u want limit my move out ill just live inside : P
afgani [4d\]: S3
jakubiszon [4k\]: what is inner sai?
Hammer: oh well, so Mateusz will kill the corner then... :P
]
;W[rq]WL[60]OW[1]C[NeaFanica [1k\]: R7?
afgani [4d\]: R8
KhaoKhat [-\]: Make the game more complicate
aDeadman [2d\]: Jabarins estimation is that b is ahead and white hanging a bit in the ropes
KhaoKhat [-\]: Time-suji :))
Feanor [2k\]: r8 indeed
Ferran [?\]: jakubiszon, reference to a Japanese comic, Hikaru no Go.
Welvang [6d\]: I think Mateusz had many ways to end that game fast
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: what is current %?
Ferran [?\]: Inner Go ancient spirit
SAlexander [?\]: Ali haven't looked at currecnt positioin yet
Welvang [6d\]: and letting that bottom right corner is not a way
JeansebL [1d?\]: 43% for B
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: !
ddhytgbdd: top left is first local defeat for b
Tyger [2d\]: R8
Uberdude [6d\]: top left is i think what he expected, so misjudgement rather than misreading
extrsolid [6d\]: top left is no problem
Lukan [7d?\]: not necessary a defeat, that whole white's big thing at the top might come under attack
Lukan [7d?\]: still prefer b
extrsolid [6d\]: problem is, black did not challenge the big w corner
]
;B[kc]BL[60]OB[3]C[aDeadman [2d\]: maybe Mateusz gave some handi with H5 
ddhytgbdd: $1000 top left b dead
ddhytgbdd: any takers
extrsolid [6d\]: haha
Welvang [6d\]: letting r6 is also terrible
Lukan [7d?\]: dead but trillion aji
extrsolid [6d\]: remember there is ko
Shamash [?\]: believe in drakula you fools
]
;W[kb]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: lol
KhaoKhat [-\]: Does he bite?
]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[3]C[ZeNit [?\]: I only believe in Frankenstein's monster
Welvang [6d\]: It's actually scripted...W planned to lose already to let his teammates play some games
Judoka [1k\]: You mean B?
SAlexander [?\]: you mean black
Welvang [6d\]: Also would be not interesting to have 5-0, from both teams
Welvang [6d\]: yeah B
SAlexander [?\]: but yeah, it's like WWE
Tyger [2d\]: k18 was strange
aDeadman [2d\]: ah also nice theory @welvang
extrsolid [6d\]: why is 5-0 not interesting for AGA?
]
;W[lc]WL[60]OW[1]C[NeaFanica [1k\]: Maybe Drakula has other plans next weekend
Welvang [6d\]: to lose 5-0 is not interesting for viewers, for players, and for sponsors
Welvang [6d\]: even to win actually :)
extrsolid [6d\]: I think it is
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: m2
]
;B[ec]BL[60]OB[3]C[ZeNit [?\]: 5-0 into the reverse sweep, not that's hype ;)
Welvang [6d\]: less games, less players, and less visibility
extrsolid [6d\]: AGA might have to reconsider the pro konzept
lal: someone might be losing $1000
ZeNit [?\]: or 4-0 rather
Welvang [6d\]: yeah, a reverse 5-0 would be LIT
ZeNit [?\]: lol
ddhytgbdd: nope
Pupil [1k?\]: go is go. We are not in football. So in the respect of go, i hope they not planned the result
Welvang [6d\]: i would love it
SAlexander [?\]: i think black got confused somehow
KhaoKhat [-\]: I still think Surma plays his best to repect his opponent 
Welvang [6d\]: lol i'm just kidding, Pupil...But for real, it's not good for us, we want to see more games :)
Welvang [6d\]: Of course he plays his best :)
]
;W[fc]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: everyone makes mistakes
]
;B[ed]BL[60]OB[3]C[SAlexander [?\]: direction is completely off
Pupil [1k?\]: oh yes more game for sure ^^
extrsolid [6d\]: yes
extrsolid [6d\]: now thats a point we might want to see more games
extrsolid [6d\]: still
Pupil [1k?\]: but if mateusz is stronger, let him win ahahah
extrsolid [6d\]: GO Matheus!
extrsolid [6d\]: Surma!!!
lal: if he read this out to the end this could be gentlemen
PondTurtle [3k\]: Here is fingers crossed for 5 win streak
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: Mateusz is now  hunting D15 white group?
SAlexander [?\]: it's not like they planned it but teammates are 100% badgering him for hoarding games
]
;W[fd]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[ee]BL[60]OB[3]C[SAlexander [?\]: lol
SAlexander [?\]: B lead
NeaFanica [1k\]: LZ%?
ddhytgbdd: show me the money!!!
ZeNit [?\]: This is the start of Mateusz magic, I can feel it
extrsolid [6d\]: LZ likes b now
Dream [3d\]: that exchange changes the status of corner
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: yes
extrsolid [6d\]: w must hate to run short on time here
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: ^^
]
;W[gb]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[ic]BL[60]OB[3]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: If he win all, AGA need to take the training more serious
Laman [1d\]: if Mateusz wins everything, will he also get all the prizemoney?
Lukan [7d?\]: no
EXIT [1d?\]: d19
measwel [5d\]: I think then he would get half
]
;W[oi]WL[60]OW[1]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: He will have a bonus I think
ddhytgbdd: ohhhh
Welvang [6d\]: he will have a small bonus
Welvang [6d\]: i guess :)
Dream [3d\]: wut
]
;B[cd]BL[60]OB[3]C[lal: zomg
ddhytgbdd: say bye bye
herissondu [4d\]: that's some really easy money for all the other pros then
Welvang [6d\]: otherwise they would have all fought to get to play first haha
ddhytgbdd: too $1000
Shamash [?\]: Drakula's magic is coming
KhaoKhat [-\]: Endgame? 
fekand6 [1k\]: w+r
measwel [5d\]: I think 1K for each won game and the rest is split over the rest of the team
KhaoKhat [-\]: Thanos...
]
;W[be]WL[60]OW[1]C[Laman [1d\]: i would be kinda fair and completely hilarious if he did
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: white is dead?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: on upper left?
ddhytgbdd: tricky to read
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: B11 now?
Uberdude [6d\]: interesting that eric found the p11 good shape point, but wrong timing
anull [-\]: seki
]
;B[fe]BL[60]OB[3]C[Uberdude [6d\]: lz prefers directly after black l17
lal: er b has one more lib than w?
Uberdude [6d\]: b13 shape point aim
]
;W[hb]WL[60]OW[1]C[m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: one of these two white groups are dead
]
;B[bg]BL[60]OB[3]C[m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: whola!
KhaoKhat [-\]: Or b group is dead
SAlexander [?\]: damn, LZ move, surma sees right through it
Uberdude [6d\]: at least he made e13 on a good spot
ZeNit [?\]: what an annoying move
afgani [4d\]: D14
ddhytgbdd: lets all agree one of the two groups is dead
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: yes
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: I agree ^^
]
;W[df]WL[60]OW[1]C[Uberdude [6d\]: so white should have played something like g14 when he had chance
Uberdude [6d\]: havingg14 h14 f13 would have changed this sequence a lot
momiji [2d\]: w loves empty triangles
]
;B[bh]BL[60]OB[3]C[m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: tasty ;)
Shamash [?\]: force to capture the corner
afgani [4d\]: D12
SAlexander [?\]: wow, LZ doesnt like it
afgani [4d\]: me too
KhaoKhat [-\]: Feel like Quadra kill for Surma 
Uberdude [6d\]: because damage centre?
afgani [4d\]: black  should  play on the  right side
]
;W[eh]WL[60]OW[1]C[extrsolid [6d\]: woha
Uberdude [6d\]: umm wedge?
Tyger [2d\]: Leela says B12 was a big mistake
]
;B[dh]BL[60]OB[3]C[extrsolid [6d\]: yay!
Uberdude [6d\]: right
SAlexander [?\]: And it is all over!
Pupil [1k?\]: surma is a monster
qsfqs: what's the percentage to win for white acording to Leela?
extrsolid [6d\]: dracula
PondTurtle [3k\]: 24% now
extrsolid [6d\]: sucking blood
PondTurtle [3k\]: for W
SAlexander [?\]: 8%
Uberdude [6d\]: needed to c11 first if wanted this one
Tyger [2d\]: for W 23%
]
;W[bc]WL[60]OW[1]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: Res soon 
]
;B[dg]BL[60]OB[3]C[Welvang [6d\]: b17 so wrong
Welvang [6d\]: i don't understand at all 
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: stress?
ddhytgbdd: at least w dont hav to wait long for w to move
afgani [4d\]: r11
extrsolid [6d\]: capturing the corner?
JeansebL [1d?\]: time pressure...
Tyger [2d\]: B17 was very bad
extrsolid [6d\]: ok, black mannaged to get plenty of points in the center now
]
;W[lj]WL[60]OW[1]C[m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: maybe Erik wants KO
PondTurtle [3k\]: On stream they said it made sure corner was dead
lal: umm
afgani [4d\]: looks  like black wasted alot  of moves there
Welvang [6d\]: feels like b wins easy now
Welvang [6d\]: imo
lal: b a17?
ddhytgbdd: m9 
Mocramis [2k\]: it would feel bad if surma did win all of the games :(
lal: isnt there a ko for b in the corner
JeansebL [1d?\]: 88% for B
PondTurtle [3k\]: Mocramis I wouldn'T
]
;B[lk]BL[60]OB[3]C[Uberdude [6d\]: maybe aga can tag team in myungwan kim?
Shamash [?\]: good if he wons all
KhaoKhat [-\]: AGA have plan to give away 4 matches I think
Tyger [2d\]: A18 better than A17 - there is no throw in
KhaoKhat [-\]: Revenge in the last
Welvang [6d\]: i have faith, Ryan is really strong i'm sure he can win couple games
Welvang [6d\]: :)
]
;W[mk]WL[60]OW[1]C[ZeNit [?\]: I hope so too
extrsolid [6d\]: Surma is realy strong 
JeansebL [1d?\]: dont forget Ryan Li won against Chen Yaoye :)
Mocramis [2k\]: well this is a friendly event, i'm afraid it will make this event a bit less interesting from both sides
Welvang [6d\]: Indeed
sprouts [2d\]: I am really strong
extrsolid [6d\]: he might win this an one more maybe
sprouts [2d\]: In my dreams :3
afgani [4d\]: actually it looks like black gave white a  chance
]
;B[ll]BL[60]OB[3]C[ddhytgbdd: m8 safe
KhaoKhat [-\]: Or Ryan win against Surma and after that win against all member of EGF team
afgani [4d\]: R11
Welvang [6d\]: that's the plan
ddhytgbdd: yes
afgani [4d\]: or R10
Welvang [6d\]: but i guess the plan was not to be 0-4 in the first place ;)
Welvang [6d\]: so plans....
sprouts [2d\]: Impossible to beat Ilya
gruvik [1k\]: im not strong even in my dreams :/
PondTurtle [3k\]: Last game before this one was spectacular
lal: K4?
lal: or right side..
]
;W[qi]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: p8  not bad either
sprouts [2d\]: That was big
Welvang [6d\]: Surma just confirmed his good shape with Grand Slam
afgani [4d\]: what does leela  say after R11?
woodman: 69%
extrsolid [6d\]: 82
]
;B[ql]BL[60]OB[3]C[retroblack [-\]: 81% B
extrsolid [6d\]: 82% for b
SAlexander [?\]: ~83
Kraeftchen [4k\]: I think I'm not smart enough to understand these games without commentary. I don't understand at least 50% of the moves.
Welvang [6d\]: wow
Welvang [6d\]: that is super risky :)
ddhytgbdd: wovely
Shamash [?\]: invincible
extrsolid [6d\]: thats deep
Welvang [6d\]: hope it works
ZeNit [?\]: I like it
Welvang [6d\]: q7 
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: lets go kill it 
ddhytgbdd: he has support at s7 
ZeNit [?\]: destroy it all!
Welvang [6d\]: white hope rises
]
;W[pm]WL[60]OW[1]C[momiji [2d\]: sketchy
]
;B[qj]BL[60]OB[3]C[afgani [4d\]: R8 should have been played alot sooner
Uberdude [6d\]: yeah, could probably have gor r8 for s6 exchange at a good time
Welvang [6d\]: nah, the mistake b made was to not playing s6 and allow r6
lal: um how does this work out for b after w S11?
ddhytgbdd: this is the end sequence
Welvang [6d\]: right side was much more important than center
ddhytgbdd: gm over 
Welvang [6d\]: that will live tho
]
;W[pj]WL[60]OW[1]C[Welvang [6d\]: mateusz style
extrsolid [6d\]: on what price?
fekand6 [1k\]: s10
Uberdude [6d\]: o6 dying, you heard it here first =)
lal: S9?
]
;B[rj]BL[60]OB[3]C[extrsolid [6d\]: Leela hates this
KhaoKhat [-\]: Hm..
gruvik [1k\]: s6 is what hurts right?
ddhytgbdd: 50,0000
SAlexander [?\]: black is a bit ...
KhaoKhat [-\]: Change plan
SAlexander [?\]: but it's still ok
Mocramis [2k\]: i don't think whit can afford to let black live no ?
Crazywind [8d\]: go Eric!
Welvang [6d\]: if w cannot kill, it's definitely over
Welvang [6d\]: and the opposite is true
]
;W[ri]WL[60]OW[1]C[Shamash [?\]: oh =/
GoFree1 [4d\]: 60.0000
urtok [8k\]: GO MATEUSZ :)
ddhytgbdd: one million dollars
Crazywind [8d\]: looks dead to me
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: on what?
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: mateus is tired 
sprouts [2d\]: What's the numbers all about?
extrsolid [6d\]: Go Mateusz !!!
ddhytgbdd: o6  lives
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: blacks dead?
fekand6 [1k\]: t11
lal: crazywind, even with b T10?
ZeNit [?\]: not dead yet
KhaoKhat [-\]: The opposite is if b is dead, it's still not over?
ZeNit [?\]: just a small pickle
]
;B[qq]BL[60]OB[2]C[pollux2: with t11 black may live
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: TIME
SAlexander [?\]: 50/50 now?
]
;W[qr]WL[60]OW[1]C[Tyger [2d\]: is it a ko?
ddhytgbdd: here comes the calvery
PondTurtle [3k\]: nope
woodman: yeah
PondTurtle [3k\]: R3 was good according to LZ you just need about 10 000 visits for it to see it
lal: if w answers s4 at s2 it seems b is alive
HKA [3d?\]: The most spectacular misspelling among many
]
;B[ok]BL[60]OB[2]C[ddhytgbdd: GREED
SAlexander [?\]: black is getting confused again
ddhytgbdd: isee greed
KhaoKhat [-\]: Hm?
SAlexander [?\]: bamboozled
KhaoKhat [-\]: Time move?
Tyger [2d\]: now only 10% for B
Welvang [6d\]: feel like it was not his initial plan ^^
ddhytgbdd: he can connect up
PondTurtle [3k\]: 65% for B
ddhytgbdd: or just invade a little
]
;W[pk]WL[60]OW[1]C[PondTurtle [3k\]: Seriously people stop sharing percentages made on only 500 visits
]
;B[pl]BL[60]OB[2]C[Mocramis [2k\]: can b live i have a hard time to tell wether he can or not
KhaoKhat [-\]: Why he invades too deep when he is winning?
Mocramis [2k\]: since t10  is sente
Welvang [6d\]: just stop giving percentages at all
ddhytgbdd: s6  lives
fekand6 [1k\]: ko?
Welvang [6d\]: and try to analyze the game by yourself :)
PondTurtle [3k\]: or that
Lukan [7d?\]: leela sucks
ddhytgbdd: p7  connecs
Crazywind [8d\]: yes
edalk [1k\]: 100% true Welvang
Crazywind [8d\]: keep giving eric points
sprouts [2d\]: 500% b win
]
;W[om]WL[60]OW[1]C[lal: ohoho
ddhytgbdd: p8 
]
;B[ol]BL[60]OB[2]C[SAlexander [?\]: low vistis won't give you 10% for black though
]
;W[nm]WL[60]OW[1]C[Uberdude [6d\]: please stop giving percentages edalk
ddhytgbdd: s6 s6 
lal: wow
bert [?\]: o8 
extrsolid [6d\]: this is cool
lal: 100% chance this will need popcorn
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: N8?
Uberdude [6d\]: this reminds me of ending of game vs andy
Mocramis [2k\]: what can white answer if black s6  ?
extrsolid [6d\]: black read realy far for the invasion
afgani [4d\]: what is leela saying now?
extrsolid [6d\]: magic
Uberdude [6d\]: except mateusz was winning so needless complicated
PondTurtle [3k\]: ohhhhh!!! there is snapback miai
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: both SD noow 
PondTurtle [3k\]: Sp black can play R7 in sente
Dream [3d\]: o8?
ddhytgbdd: snake eatin its tail??
extrsolid [6d\]: s6 semms close to living
ZeNit [?\]: I'm ready for more moves with 0,5 seconds left :)
juhop [2d?\]: 75-25, 250k visits
]
;B[mj]BL[60]OB[1]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: Lost on time
ddhytgbdd: wow
KhaoKhat [-\]: :))
Dream [3d\]: oh god...
sprouts [2d\]: Juhop which colour
measwel [5d\]: this is crazy
fekand6 [1k\]: ops
lal: looks like at the very least b gets both R9 and T10 in sente
ddhytgbdd: thats what confidences looks like
gobb [5d\]: great game
measwel [5d\]: drakula could have simplified, but no
Mocramis [2k\]: reminds me of the first game ending :p
juhop [2d?\]: not anymore...
afgani [4d\]: J10
]
;W[ml]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[nj]BL[60]OB[1]C[ddhytgbdd: ok now wait what?
KhaoKhat [-\]: I dont know why but Viewing this game make me want to be a pro Xd
KhaoKhat [-\]: So cool
SAlexander [?\]: can black really survive?
Mocramis [2k\]: huh ?
Dream [3d\]: m12 shining
ddhytgbdd: w s7 
KhaoKhat [-\]: So strange now
ZeNit [?\]: maybe
]
;W[nh]WL[60]OW[1]C[sprouts [2d\]: N7
Wichmaster [8d\]: o11
lockhart [4d\]: isnt q12 and m12 game over?
SAlexander [?\]: that's a real pro attitude, right? I can live anywhere
Uberdude [6d\]: o11 is hilarious =)
fekand6 [1k\]: n7
Tyger [2d\]: o11
gobb [5d\]: he can live
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: nah thats just Mateus
FightorDie [8k\]: seems i did right
]
;B[ni]BL[60]OB[1]C[Welvang [6d\]: o11 is just working
afgani [4d\]: M12
Dream [3d\]: yea
Nils [1d\]: o11 and m12 are miai
lockhart [4d\]: noice!
Tyger [2d\]: nice tesuji
extrsolid [6d\]: nice fighting Idea
mogget [?\]: Mateusz is so strong
Welvang [6d\]: now its semeai between r11 and black group
SAlexander [?\]: power triangle games
ZeNit [?\]: great, more empty triangles
FightorDie [8k\]: n7
Mocramis [2k\]: guys i need to re-learn alll my shapes
lal: w shouldve o12 at n11 huh
Tyger [2d\]: q12 or m12 next
gobb [5d\]: n11
FightorDie [8k\]: m7
woodman: mateus is very stong
fekand6 [1k\]: ower
afgani [4d\]: white could  reduce some of the  center possibly
ddhytgbdd: talk about pushing ur advantage
FightorDie [8k\]: corner , big
]
;W[mi]WL[60]OW[1]C[Tyger [2d\]: so q12
FightorDie [8k\]: s6
Lukan [7d?\]: nasty empty triangle
gobb [5d\]: yea q12
NeaFanica [1k\]: Q12
]
;B[qk]BL[60]OB[1]C[extrsolid [6d\]: r9 for eyes
NeaFanica [1k\]: It's gonna be closr
fekand6 [1k\]: q12
Dream [3d\]: lol
FightorDie [8k\]: s6
Uberdude [6d\]: r9 shows he has a clear mind now
ddhytgbdd: r9 for kill threat too
Uberdude [6d\]: promising
KhaoKhat [-\]: Q12 feel b has less liberties 
JeansebL [1d?\]: s7
Tyger [2d\]: b should n7 first
Welvang [6d\]: r12 is the shape now haha
Mocramis [2k\]: this is a "i live or you die move no" ?
Uberdude [6d\]: s12 please welvang
FightorDie [8k\]: s2
Uberdude [6d\]: maximize the lols
]
;W[rg]WL[60]OW[1]C[gobb [5d\]: w needs to defend
gobb [5d\]: yea
ZeNit [?\]: booo
ddhytgbdd: s6 
Welvang [6d\]: but it leaves q12 
]
;B[ph]BL[60]OB[1]C[Welvang [6d\]: it's stupid
lockhart [4d\]: so nasty
Dino9 [-\]: What's going on
Welvang [6d\]: r12 much more ugly and efficient
ZeNit [?\]: that's not an empty triangle
Welvang [6d\]: :)
ddhytgbdd: oh yeah dont forget about the 1 point sente
Wichmaster [8d\]: r12 would kill
Welvang [6d\]: he should learn how to play empty angles
Mocramis [2k\]: what is the point of s13  ?
KhaoKhat [-\]: Triple empty triangle :))
gobb [5d\]: r12?
Welvang [6d\]: yep master witch
FightorDie [8k\]: 11
NeaFanica [1k\]: Make more liberties
FightorDie [8k\]: pff
lal: P12?
]
;W[oh]WL[60]OW[1]C[gobb [5d\]: what should r12 do?
FightorDie [8k\]: q13
ddhytgbdd: bueatifly done
Xorax [?\]: hmm, b dead?
ddhytgbdd: q11 
bert [?\]: r12 prevents t10 being sente
FightorDie [8k\]: dead
FightorDie [8k\]: done
gobb [5d\]: no
fekand6 [1k\]: s6
gruvik [1k\]: s4 then 26 and ciao bambino
gobb [5d\]: n7 o8 s6 s4 t5 t6 
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: this is getting exciting 
Uberdude [6d\]: are you sure r12 kill?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: what about Q11?
Mocramis [2k\]: oh right
ihmsje [-\]: r7
Hellhuman [?\]: s4
edalk [1k\]: where is 26?
]
;B[pi]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[pg]WL[60]OW[1]C[m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: yep, Q11
Mocramis [2k\]: q13 
]
;B[oj]BL[60]OB[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: yes
lockhart [4d\]: s6,s2,t8?
FightorDie [8k\]: arggg
Mocramis [2k\]: q10 
sprouts [2d\]: Over
FightorDie [8k\]: what he did
zz [2k\]: q10 
]
;W[pj]WL[60]OW[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: u ouch
gobb [5d\]: still not dead i think
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: R12
KhaoKhat [-\]: Who is killing who?
FightorDie [8k\]: ahh
ddhytgbdd: s6 
]
;B[mm]BL[60]OB[1]C[afgani [4d\]: what does leela say?
ddhytgbdd: oh geeze
Mocramis [2k\]: wait what ?
woodman: white is black
edalk [1k\]: :)
trohde [-\]: LOL
ddhytgbdd: b is like a snapping tirtle
ddhytgbdd: turtle
FightorDie [8k\]: m2
]
;W[lm]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[mn]BL[60]OB[1]C[sprouts [2d\]: Matheusz is surma
FightorDie [8k\]: n*
sprouts [2d\]: So much is certain
gobb [5d\]: o8 s6 blacks alive
KhaoKhat [-\]: Eric is Lui?
Welvang [6d\]: c'est qui lui ?
Lilou [-\]: tu chipotes
cho7 [14k\]: c'est le petit lui 
SAlexander [?\]: does black live or not lol?
]
;W[nl]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: w beter to take s6 
bert [?\]: lui st Lui
bert [?\]: *est
SAlexander [?\]: ali thinks it's dead, right?
FightorDie [8k\]: nomen est omen
ddhytgbdd: 3 points v 11
sprouts [2d\]: Ali?
]
;B[rn]BL[60]OB[1]C[afgani [4d\]: S4
Welvang [6d\]: it's not dead mward
lockhart [4d\]: t9!
Wichmaster [8d\]: s2
cedric92 [4k\]: L9
FightorDie [8k\]: j10
ddhytgbdd: w crumbeling due to time
lockhart [4d\]: after s2 t9 right??
Crazywind [8d\]: t5 alive
Crazywind [8d\]: so sad
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: tsumego for the win !!!
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: yes
]
;W[rp]WL[60]OW[1]C[m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: problem of the DAY
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: :))
Mocramis [2k\]: ko for life ><
lockhart [4d\]: oh right nice
KhaoKhat [-\]: End
FightorDie [8k\]: same
Mocramis [2k\]: according to stream
juhop [2d?\]:  leelaz says 90% for b but does it always understand L&D?
Welvang [6d\]: ko ?
Uberdude [6d\]: this game makes me happy as an empty triangle lover
Welvang [6d\]: leela can't solve 20k life and death
Dino9 [-\]: He lives
scurge [1k?\]: t5
Crazywind [8d\]: T5 alive
]
;B[qm]BL[60]OB[1]C[lal: i dont understand why b played R9. it seems like pass
Dream [3d\]: t5 looks good
ZeNit [?\]: empty triangle to live
Lilou [-\]: alive to me :s
lal: just R9 at Q12
Tyger [2d\]: b leads
JeansebL [1d?\]: j10
Uberdude [6d\]: lal, otherwise w has push and cut there for squeeze
FightorDie [8k\]: r5
sprouts [2d\]: J10 not enough
]
;W[so]WL[60]OW[1]C[measwel [5d\]: this is an increadible game
ddhytgbdd: r5 
Lilou [-\]: S8
Dino9 [-\]: Si should live
fekand6 [1k\]: s8
Dino9 [-\]: S8*
SAlexander [?\]: someone make a tsumego out of it
Welvang [6d\]: s8 and win :)
pollux2: now horrible ko for w if b q6
NeaFanica [1k\]: LZ%?
FightorDie [8k\]: ohh man
Welvang [6d\]: or is ittt
FightorDie [8k\]: 62 b
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: seems like its up to crazywind now 
afgani [4d\]: S8  is fake seki
]
;B[rl]BL[60]OB[1]C[Dino9 [-\]: It's still a KO but should be fine
XXNINJAXX [4d\]: S8 is true life
ddhytgbdd: hmmm
KhaoKhat [-\]: I dont want to live but you gave me no choice
sprouts [2d\]: Yes life
XXNINJAXX [4d\]: T7 t8
ddhytgbdd: ?
FightorDie [8k\]: i cant look
KhaoKhat [-\]: Alive
ddhytgbdd: t6 
zz [2k\]: t9 t10 t7 t6 t8 
mishu [7k?\]: afgani <> XXNINJAXX       fight!
]
;W[sn]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[sm]BL[60]OB[1]C[ddhytgbdd: O U C H
Welvang [6d\]: no other way
zz [2k\]: t9 
NeaFanica [1k\]: Alive
lal: awesome
ddhytgbdd: t4 
FightorDie [8k\]: 9
Dream [3d\]: res
afgani [4d\]: uh
Xorax [?\]: my brain is hurting :(
Lukan [7d?\]: GG
sichenz: time to resign for black
Uberdude [6d\]: SURMA POWER!
FightorDie [8k\]: ahhh
lockhart [4d\]: yea gg eric
FightorDie [8k\]: 4
Seimeitaek [?\]: Nice Game
KhaoKhat [-\]: I dont want to live forever
sichenz: i meant white
]
;W[sp]WL[60]OW[1]C[afgani [4d\]: why t6?
]
;B[pk]BL[60]OB[1]C[ddhytgbdd: b got too greedy
FightorDie [8k\]: 9
Tyger [2d\]: w should T9 - not T6
KhaoKhat [-\]: :)) Hope for Ryan
FightorDie [8k\]: ohh
PondTurtle [3k\]: lol he is milking it
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: why?
GoFree1 [4d\]: next transatlantic should be 2 stones handicap
SAlexander [?\]: lol, Q9
FightorDie [8k\]: dead?
GetStrong [1d?\]: xD
Judoka [1k\]: Cuz I know I'd be living in vain
lal: lul
jakubiszon [4k\]: wasn't t9 life now?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: why Surma played that>
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: ?
sprouts [2d\]: B won
lal: just for extra points
DesMites [3k\]: it is sente
ddhytgbdd: ohh right
SAlexander [?\]: he threatens cut
Lilou [-\]: mateusz is watching josephine ange gardien same time
sprouts [2d\]: Kikashi
FightorDie [8k\]: daddy
gruvik [1k\]: w needs to connect
]
;W[qh]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: this guy reads well into the future
FightorDie [8k\]: t9
FightorDie [8k\]: alive
XXNINJAXX [4d\]: Sadly only Andy and Ryan are on Surma level :(
lal: does andy play regularly online?
ddhytgbdd: q10 
KyamiRefur [2d\]: POPOPOW
]
;B[sk]BL[60]OB[1]C[Hellblom [3k\]: i think he knows fightordie :)
Tyger [2d\]: q10 looks good
KyamiRefur [2d\]: \\o/ Mateusz !!!
KhaoKhat [-\]: Andy got bye bye by Surma 
ddhytgbdd: ahhh now he quits
urtok [8k\]: YES :)
KhaoKhat [-\]: :))
trohde [-\]: LOL Cami :-D
JeansebL [1d?\]: eric had several chances in this game, don't act like he was totally outplayed, it's not the case
SAlexander [?\]: J10 cut is still there
Seimeitaek [?\]: so strong in fight
KyamiRefur [2d\]: hi throde :D
FightorDie [8k\]: we are one might
Gonzalate [5d?\]: allez là
Welvang [6d\]: definitely, JeanSeBL
Uberdude [6d\]: Surma is skilled at making the penultimate large mistake
]
;W[jp]WL[60]OW[1]C[Welvang [6d\]: but it feels more like that drakula gave him a chance
Welvang [6d\]: to be honest :)
afgani [4d\]: maybe something with J10
KyamiRefur [2d\]: crisis meeting in USA team ;)
ddhytgbdd: that says a lot uber
FightorDie [8k\]: death ko
pollux2: j10 does not work: just j9
sichenz: i think the US team just doesnt give a damn
SAlexander [?\]: just cause white had some chances doesn't mean they weren't competely outplayed
ddhytgbdd: wait w still playing?
fekand6 [1k\]: l7
]
;B[ko]BL[60]OB[1]C[Uberdude [6d\]: 5 years ago i think AGA could have steamrollered EGF
charm004 [2k\]: m9?
SAlexander [?\]: us team has too much weed on its hands now
KhaoKhat [-\]: Get AGA an AI now
Kharjo [-\]: it looks like this is most mateuz against us than eur vs us...
Welvang [6d\]: that statement is almost true, Uberdude
Welvang [6d\]: still think ilya was already pretty strong
Welvang [6d\]: good enough to wipe out 5-0 aga team at the time
Uberdude [6d\]: yeah andy vs ilya i'd say 70-30
Welvang [6d\]: but it was evenish
Lukan [7d?\]: i think that statement is wrong
lockhart [4d\]: you're canadas only hope Ryan!
FightorDie [8k\]: black far ahead...?
]
;W[kr]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: aye
Welvang [6d\]: almost true and wrong are quite similar, Lukan :)
Lukan [7d?\]: if you think so... :)
]
;B[ab]BL[60]OB[1]C[afgani [4d\]: Q10
zumeo [-\]: white j10 is ok please ?
FightorDie [8k\]: yes
szgo [3d\]: time for the canadians to save us
jakubiszon [4k\]: what would be black answer for w j10 ?
FightorDie [8k\]: it looks for me so
Lukan [7d?\]: J10 - declaration of victory
Welvang [6d\]: gotta count this game 
pollux2: answer to j10 is j9
crestfalen [1k\]: j10 l11 
SAlexander [?\]: "please resign"?
Finnish8d [-\]: In my mind EGF was never weaker? :P
Lukan [7d?\]: agreed...
FightorDie [8k\]: this is for fun
chunga: AGA pros are not actively competing
]
;W[da]WL[60]OW[1]C[urtok [8k\]: ko  ?
]
;B[cb]BL[60]OB[1]C[zz [2k\]: b+10 imho
urtok [8k\]: no ko :)
Imran [2d\]: Who win ?
lockhart [4d\]: just cleaning up now
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: white is alive?
juhop [2d?\]: leelaz thinks b could have passed already and still win
JeansebL [1d?\]: I'm pretty sure that at one time, Andy Liu was comfortably stronger, but the EGF quickly caught up
KhaoKhat [-\]: After this tournarment,  if Surma win all, change the name "Surma (Thanos) vs the America team"
FightorDie [8k\]: b14
SAlexander [?\]: egf gets funding from china?
lal: c19
]
;W[bf]WL[60]OW[1]C[lal: or that oops
Uberdude [6d\]: mm ok 7 not 5
FightorDie [8k\]: first safe
]
;B[cg]BL[60]OB[1]C[ddhytgbdd: n2 
PondTurtle [3k\]: push and double atari at L11?
Uberdude [6d\]: before ilya was pro =)
GoFree1 [4d\]: this game was so inspiring
Hilm [2k?\]: Thanos would have killed only half of the team.
FightorDie [8k\]: c6
zumeo [-\]: w j10 - b j9 - w h10 and b ?
KhaoKhat [-\]: EGF gets support from Golaxy (china) 
lal: all sente for b ==
Seimeitaek [?\]: time to resign
bert [?\]: j10 j9 h10 h12 
]
;W[ca]WL[60]OW[1]C[SAlexander [?\]: KhaoKhat no it doesn'
szgo [3d\]: time for canada vs europe
zz [2k\]: j10 l11 
Hellhuman [?\]: w + t
KhaoKhat [-\]: They have one year to using Golaxy if i remember right
ddhytgbdd: time for Germany against the world !!!
Hellhuman [?\]: not that again @ddhytgbdd
ddhytgbdd: wait no
mogget [?\]: Germany is weak
zumeo [-\]: @bert thanks
]
;B[pj]BL[60]OB[1]C[lal: just A14..?
KhaoKhat [-\]: To use*
lal: heh
]
;W[qg]WL[60]OW[1]C[bert [?\]: zz got it better
Mocramis [2k\]: so many timesujis
SAlexander [?\]: super dumpling
extrsolid [6d\]: usefull endgame
extrsolid [6d\]: s7 now
RaduStefan [1d\]: Who's winning?
Mocramis [2k\]: isn't p15  painfull
ddhytgbdd: p14 ?
]
;B[af]BL[60]OB[1]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: Thanos
urtok [8k\]: seki ?
Aram [2k\]: close game
FightorDie [8k\]: a19?
bert [?\]: but then again: j10 l11 l8 
JeansebL [1d?\]: I'd love to see more AGA pros play in the EGC, and EGF pros play in the USGC
Welvang [6d\]: w can still win
Welvang [6d\]: feels like b has to play really good yose
]
;W[fa]WL[60]OW[1]C[extrsolid [6d\]: how?
FightorDie [8k\]: ahh+
FightorDie [8k\]: f19
KyamiRefur [2d\]: nice idea Jeanseb :)
Aram [2k\]: Jeansebl, the EGC hosts the european championships, so zero chance of egf pros playing in the us go congress :)
ZeNit [?\]: l11 looks pretty big
FightorDie [8k\]: i right
Shamash [?\]: study this yose kyky =)
Welvang [6d\]: well it's not at the same time, Aram
XXNINJAXX [4d\]: Can do both 
ddhytgbdd: lets seee 4 v 3 hmmm
KyamiRefur [2d\]: #kykynoyose
extrsolid [6d\]: I wonder if black will ever capture in the center
FightorDie [8k\]: 4 - 5
Aram [2k\]: still, expensive to travel to the us for egf pros.. not really worth it?
]
;B[ki]BL[60]OB[1]C[fdhfh: EGS pros are full time pros and AGA pros are part-time
extrsolid [6d\]: yay
extrsolid [6d\]: !
Justin [?\]: I left for over an hour an a half and it is STILL going on o.o
PondTurtle [3k\]: and he played it!
Seimeitaek [?\]: good move
trohde [-\]: Mh… I thought M12 rather
FightorDie [8k\]: bitter
Judoka [1k\]: L16 seems big for w
]
;W[mr]WL[60]OW[1]C[trohde [-\]: or m13 …
FightorDie [8k\]: like ouch
PondTurtle [3k\]: has to give up those two stones anc center is now trouble free
SAlexander [?\]: what if W B19?
Welvang [6d\]: close game
Lukan [7d?\]: no way a close game :)
FightorDie [8k\]: g5 good
lal: nothing happens, SAlexander. w wins that race anyway
]
;B[kq]BL[60]OB[1]C[Welvang [6d\]: keep the hype
FightorDie [8k\]:  but need more
szgo [3d\]: or resign to keep dignity
FightorDie [8k\]: bad 
KhaoKhat [-\]: We still need to view this game so dont close now
KhaoKhat [-\]: :))
]
;W[lq]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: dignity is for cowards : )
]
;B[kp]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[jq]WL[60]OW[1]C[lal: b still has b8 endgame?
squid [12k?\]: m13
lal: k16
FightorDie [8k\]: b8 dead
ddhytgbdd: b8?
]
;B[mb]BL[60]OB[1]C[SAlexander [?\]: i wanna go sleepy sleep already
Shamash [?\]: p41
FightorDie [8k\]: l18
Shamash [?\]: p14
]
;W[lg]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[lh]BL[60]OB[1]C[RaduStefan [1d\]: P14
ddhytgbdd: cany you say  eye space?
]
;W[mh]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[kh]BL[60]OB[1]C[RaduStefan [1d\]: B P14 and boom chacka lacka!
lal: w p15 big
jakubiszon [4k\]: wow do you often see 9 stones in 3 by 3 formation like on q9
FightorDie [8k\]: nam nam
ddhytgbdd: is w still awake?
lal: g6 now?
]
;W[lb]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[na]BL[60]OB[1]C[ddhytgbdd: k19 
FightorDie [8k\]: first safe, than atatac
raleur [1k\]: p15
SAlexander [?\]: does the time zone of the games benefit EGF or AGA team?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: AGA
Nils [1d\]: benefits aga
zz [2k\]: j18 
Laman [1d\]: b has 7 b2 bombers hidden on the right side
Tyger [2d\]: must p15
]
;W[oe]WL[60]OW[1]C[Hellhuman [?\]: Little site node: my leela 99%s blacks
Laman [1d\]: or 8
Aram [2k\]: its currently, what, midnight or half past midnight for mateusz?
bert [?\]: that formation must be called aircraft carrier
lal: t14
PondTurtle [3k\]: 23:32 for poland
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: HE IS IN KAZAN
Aram [2k\]: ok
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: not in Poland
ZeNit [?\]: Still fairly close, no? B up by around 5?
]
;B[cn]BL[60]OB[1]C[Welvang [6d\]: my gnugo bot  has 99% white
KhaoKhat [-\]: 4:32 am in my place
FightorDie [8k\]: oh , same planet, here too
anton007 [-\]: I counted b is ahead  by about 8 points
KyamiRefur [2d\]: xD
urtok [8k\]: Wife Mateusz from Kazan
KyamiRefur [2d\]: ty gnugo for you teaching 
KyamiRefur [2d\]: *r
lal: lol
]
;W[bn]WL[60]OW[1]C[Seimeitaek [?\]: 5 is not close for pros
urtok [8k\]: Mateusz from Poland
Hellhuman [?\]: why not play s14 sente right now for black?
]
;B[cp]BL[60]OB[1]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: Gnugo has winrate? 
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: Mateusz is Polish, but lives in Kazan, Russia
]
;W[bp]WL[60]OW[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: b9 big
anton007 [-\]: b8 
]
;B[bk]BL[60]OB[1]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: So what time is in Russia now?
Aram [2k\]: ok, so currently it is 00:34 in kazan
Aram [2k\]: so mateusz is having to finish the game at 1am...
FightorDie [8k\]: me 23
]
;W[ib]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[jd]BL[60]OB[1]C[SAlexander [?\]: he traveled to moscow for youth championship, is he still there?
]
;W[ja]WL[60]OW[1]C[Aram [2k\]: definetly favours the aga.. the schedule
]
;B[lp]BL[60]OB[1]C[m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: anyhow +1h to Poland
FightorDie [8k\]: g16
]
;W[lr]WL[60]OW[1]C[Hellhuman [?\]: Mateusz is young and probably used to this. 
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: ^^
Aram [2k\]: so are the aga pros :)
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: so now AGE counts?
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: ^^
HKA [3d?\]: Some people get sleepy after lunch
]
;B[rf]BL[60]OB[1]C[ddhytgbdd: w waiting for b r5 
Warfreak2 [3d\]: Nah,1am is best go-playing time
fdhfh: AGA pros are part-time pros
FightorDie [8k\]: ko?
]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: q18?
Aram [2k\]: go mateusz!!!
gruvik [1k\]: if the ussr were still running, you would have to give like ten different times XD
Uberdude [6d\]: q18 p18
SAlexander [?\]: are we reallygonna play ko lol
]
;B[ae]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ba]WL[60]OW[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: ahh right
]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]C[PondTurtle [3k\]: can white win that ko with the semai as ko threat mine on the left?
zz [2k\]: q18 
KhaoKhat [-\]: When I hear "go mateusz", it look like "I choose you, pikachu"
gruvik [1k\]: w is lost even if he gets the ko
ddhytgbdd: no\]
FightorDie [8k\]: a8 big?
]
;W[fn]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[en]BL[60]OB[1]C[sprouts [2d\]: No
]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: its sente
ZeNit [?\]: I choose you, Mateuszu
KhaoKhat [-\]: Sr, I'm just a sleepless guy at 4 am 
lal: g6?
Tyger [2d\]: B +12,5
FightorDie [8k\]: black enough
FightorDie [8k\]: just safe
]
;B[ef]BL[60]OB[1]C[ddhytgbdd: 12.5 ?
zumeo [-\]: just 4 hours to GoT new episode :-)
FightorDie [8k\]: f4
FightorDie [8k\]: or so
]
;W[ac]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]C[gruvik [1k\]: after b made s10 nlive his name should be changed to dr.frankenstein
]
;W[gn]WL[60]OW[1]C[Hellhuman [?\]: i think magnus carlsens online alias is dr.drunkenstein
]
;B[gm]BL[60]OB[1]C[fdhfh: now it appears that EGC pros are clearly stronger than AGA pros
]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: Mateusz is, anyway
Aram [2k\]: its not won yet
ZeNit [?\]: ^this
KhaoKhat [-\]: I choose you, dr.Frankenstein
gruvik [1k\]: is he an intoxicated stone? :P
fdhfh: AGA pros are stronger 5 years ago
JeansebL [1d?\]: Andy was leading for most of the game, I wouldn't count him out based on just one game :p
FightorDie [8k\]: g4 nice
Slowmotion [2d?\]: difficult to say that since only one played
Warfreak2 [3d\]: The surmanator
FightorDie [8k\]: as treat?
]
;B[ag]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[aa]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[io]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[in]BL[60]OB[1]C[Hyde [4d?\]: The Surmonster
]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]C[Aram [2k\]: ali is saying in the stream that both ali jabarin and mateusz wanted to play first in this tournament
gruvik [1k\]: Khaokhat and Warfreak, i just have to say :lol
ddhytgbdd: b8 
Aram [2k\]: and that they put up more price money for the ones that won games
FightorDie [8k\]: q6b i lioke
FightorDie [8k\]: nice treat . lol
Aram [2k\]: and that they made an online draw with a automatic random drawer
]
;B[ck]BL[60]OB[1]C[Aram [2k\]: ali jabarin won, but was in china during the first game, and had to give first spot to mateusz
Hellhuman [?\]: @aram, that darkula should lose some games, so the others have a chance to earn money
ToDie [1d?\]: q6 costs -1 point
Hellhuman [?\]: then*
]
;W[bm]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: that works too
]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[kk]WL[60]OW[1]C[ToDie [1d?\]: forget the minus
SAlexander [?\]: lol ali was supposed to play first
]
;B[kl]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]C[Aram [2k\]: hellhuman, i doubt they give 100% to the one playing
KyamiRefur [2d\]: xd poor Ali
]
;B[rm]BL[60]OB[1]C[Aram [2k\]: yepp, poor ali xD
]
;W[qo]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[jl]WL[60]OW[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: w  n19?
]
;B[km]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[fm]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[fp]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]C[Aram [2k\]: they are now asking if theyll share the 10.000 evenly.. (on stream), ali jabarin is saying he doesnt remember exactly, but 10-20% is going to the fund for people who win game, and the rest evenly split
gruvik [1k\]: probably dr,Frankenstein is in precarious financial situation, and needs to win asmap
KhaoKhat [-\]: So I can't watch this till the end
Aram [2k\]: so around 80% being split between eu pros, even if they dont play
KhaoKhat [-\]: It's too painful
]
;W[la]WL[60]OW[1]C[ddhytgbdd: q18 
Hellhuman [?\]: @aram, so even if mateus wins all the games, everyone gets 2k? thats nice, lol
SAlexander [?\]: yeah, diff not that big
]
;B[pb]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]C[Aram [2k\]: ali jabarin is now doing publicity for mateusz surmas life and death books :)
KhaoKhat [-\]: 9% battery now sign
lal: how about just b g16..
KhaoKhat [-\]: Sigh*
gruvik [1k\]: mateus is a nice human, isnt he ? Hellhuman :D
]
;B[ad]BL[60]OB[1]C[trohde [-\]: that’s team spirit
]
;W[ce]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ma]WL[60]OW[1]C[mogget [?\]: Mateusz s problems are graet
]
;B[nb]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]C[zumeo [-\]: b q6
mogget [?\]: *great
Aram [2k\]: hellhuman, thats normal in a team tournament.., otherwise youd have arguments over who gets to play first etc..
ddhytgbdd: h17 
FightorDie [8k\]: b8 , g16
Glenn [1d\]: o9
lal: q14..
]
;B[on]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[pn]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: e5
gruvik [1k\]: i propose a financial study of every team member to choose the first player
]
;W[kn]WL[60]OW[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: k7
]
;B[jm]BL[60]OB[1]C[EricjHan [12k?\]: Penis size to see who goes first
]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: q14
]
;B[bq]BL[60]OB[1]C[FightorDie [8k\]: ohh
KhaoKhat [-\]: B3?
ddhytgbdd: the nerve!
PondTurtle [3k\]: Is there some reason B did not play extra threat at G19 when his group in corner still had 2 liberties?
FightorDie [8k\]: ignore
zumeo [-\]: w l16 ignore
ddhytgbdd: e5 is better threat
FightorDie [8k\]: h17
]
;W[kd]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[br]BL[60]OB[1]C[PondTurtle [3k\]: Doesn't this create semedori?
ToDie [1d?\]: i guess he missed g19
measwel [5d\]: lol
Lynx [?\]: w might lose points in capturing
PondTurtle [3k\]: W can't live locally
FightorDie [8k\]: safe firstz
PondTurtle [3k\]: so it looks like semedori
FightorDie [8k\]: 6 4
lal: b+9 or something?
KhaoKhat [-\]: B1 for tesuji DXD
]
;W[am]WL[60]OW[1]C[KhaoKhat [-\]: XD
SAlexander [?\]: hmmmm
fekand6 [1k\]: c2
Welvang [6d\]: i have to warn mateusz he has no ko threats for this ko x)
Aram [2k\]: just dont loose on time
Nils [1d\]: WHAT
Aram [2k\]: whaaaaaaat
Lilou [-\]: LoL
JeansebL [1d?\]: wtf
genn: lol
Warfreak2 [3d\]: :-o
urkyu [3k\]: nooooooo
EricjHan [12k?\]: kek
Aram [2k\]: what the hell
mogget [?\]: what
SAlexander [?\]: welp
extrsolid [6d\]: no way
Tlina [-\]: ooooooooooooooooh
Mocramis [2k\]: whaat 
m1nd0nf1r3 [4k\]: nice
veikko [3k\]: lol
PondTurtle [3k\]: what?!!!
ToDie [1d?\]: sad
Aram [2k\]: oh come on, this cant happen!!!
SAlexander [?\]: life is hard
kannikka [1k\]: internet??
FightorDie [8k\]: zzzz
kneh [4k\]: lag?
PVTJakE [5k?\]: GEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FIN GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
KyamiRefur [2d\]: T.T
Shamash [?\]: WHAT
trohde [-\]: ;-D
cho7 [14k\]: whattt
LiCho: o....!
Slowmotion [2d?\]: beautiful
gruvik [1k\]: absurd, b was ahead by a lot
ddhytgbdd: calme down
PVTJakE [5k?\]: USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
Aram [2k\]: this is incredible unfair if this happened
gruvik [1k\]: internet probs
ZeNit [?\]: rip
Hellhuman [?\]: predicted it 100 moves ago
geze [-\]: ???????????
ihmsje [-\]: make america great again
kannikka [1k\]: no way this is ok
bjmoose [6k\]: Kentucky derby all over again
Lilou [-\]: NA WIN
fdhfh: lol
Aram [2k\]: this game should be given to mateusz in case his connection died...
Tyger [2d\]: :-(
lal: zomg
FightorDie [8k\]: we did good....
kannikka [1k\]: whole tournament is going to be joke if this goes through
urtok [8k\]: szok
KyamiRefur [2d\]: CIA cut his connexion T_T
Aram [2k\]: black is winning, what, by 10 points?
Nils [1d\]: wow this is going to be a drama
Grablor [5k\]: xD
Grablor [5k\]: kyami 
gtok123 [4d\]: LOL
HKA [3d?\]: Eric is showing no signs of celebration
fdhfh: God bless America
Hellhuman [?\]: W did not win. Black lost.
TherapieGo [-\]: yes of course kyami ^^
JeansebL [1d?\]: this is why they have proctors with them
GoSage44 [?\]: o.o
Slowmotion [2d?\]: kgsgate
kannikka [1k\]: mateusz must protest this, this is not ok
DerMeyer [1k\]: best PR for not supporting internetgo
Aram [2k\]: this is definetly not fair in case his connection went.. they have people monitoring them
SAlexander [?\]: both lost 
FightorDie [8k\]: we saw it...
anton007 [-\]: W shouldn't win game like this
kannikka [1k\]: white should have resigned about 50 moves ago
Aram [2k\]: so they know if he timed out by thinking or by connection
fdhfh: Make America Great
Lilou [-\]: maybe w doesnt count
ddhytgbdd: all of europe will be in morning
plzhelp [-\]: DDoS came through?
kannikka [1k\]: kinda of disgrace to win like this
trohde [-\]: Thanks, drakula and Chipotle!
FightorDie [8k\]: thx all
KyamiRefur [2d\]: thanks you for this mztch =)
extrsolid [6d\]: great game by surma!
LiCho: ta partia powinna byc wygrana dla Mateusza
Slowmotion [2d?\]: we should be happy, this will give us more interesting games
KyamiRefur [2d\]: surma forever :DDD
Mocramis [2k\]: isn't there a referee with each player ?
szgo [3d\]: bs, this is a joke
Aram [2k\]: congrats surma on wining by a big margin... even if you end up loosing it by time :/
ddhytgbdd: the tears will fillthe black sea
zumeo [-\]: what next ?
Nils [1d\]: I would ve loved to see some more surma games
shin0e [1k\]: :o
Kharjo [-\]: on va pas chipotter faut bien laisser les autres européens jouer quand meme
Nils [1d\]: he is really on the roll lately
Shamash [?\]: non il gagnait
measwel [5d\]: Just let them play again
Shamash [?\]: on chipotte
comeon [6d\]: where is the 'Thank you' from surma?
gruvik [1k\]: im  so hungry i imaagined a huge chipotle, see you then guys im taking dinner, and thx to drakula and chipotle for such a nice game
ddhytgbdd: lol yes rematch double or nothing
measwel [5d\]: rematch
measwel [5d\]: Is fair solution
Aram [2k\]: if you play on a "random go server" on the "internet" you should have rules for situations if someone times out due to connection.. specially since they have referees on site with both players
zumeo [-\]: rematch petition :-)
FightorDie [8k\]: zhx dragon , i believe in u
juhop [2d?\]: I guess this is not in leelazero's calculations
szgo [3d\]: if his connection went out, and eric won through this technicality, then this series is a joke
PondTurtle [3k\]: As W player I would probably even ask for win to be given to B
gtok123 [4d\]: the rules are very clear...
PondTurtle [3k\]: Noone wants ot win that way I presume
Aram [2k\]: szgo, i agree
charm004 [2k\]: not like this :(
SAlexander [?\]: salt is real, calm down, guys
fdhfh: the rule is rule
Welvang [6d\]: black is at least 10pts or more ahead
shin0e [1k\]: well, that happens
Hellhuman [?\]: @pondTurtle, youre wrong. some people just think "a win is a win, even if i lost the game"
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: they should make both player stream the game with webcam 
Tlina [-\]: is one of the players online?
Aram [2k\]: the rules are a joke if mateusz looses to a lost connection.. 
JeansebL [1d?\]: Honestly, it's already a joke to play a tournament of this caliber online :p
herissondu [4d\]: losing on time happens 
FightorDie [8k\]: it happens, however
szgo [3d\]: the connection should have been standarized
Fenring [2k\]: ofc, some people want win like this, thats why they don't surrend
herissondu [4d\]: that's it
measwel [5d\]: Connection loss is just speculation.
szgo [3d\]: and accounted for
ddhytgbdd: how doe u know it was disconect???
ddhytgbdd: ?
Welvang [6d\]: well joke is to play it on a server that doesn't answer well to disconnection 
Aram [2k\]: loosing on time is fine.. loosing if you are disconnected is not.. we of course dont know which one happened
BadAtBaduk [1d\]: It's all good folks we are looking into it right now.
Hellhuman [?\]: @measwei: not connection loss is also just speculation
Welvang [6d\]: but online is fair
FightorDie [8k\]: perhaps , he wont loose?
Shamash [?\]: Mateusz would not lose on time in a game like this
Welvang [6d\]: they have someone to check if they don't cheat etc
SAlexander [?\]: by the way, doesn't KGS stops the game if one of the players leaves?
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: yea 
Aram [2k\]: it does, but with a delay
PondTurtle [3k\]: Yep. KGS is probably worst server to lost connection of all
tappaiyok [?\]: speculations... it will all get cleared up in a minute
Aram [2k\]: so if you disconnect.. youll still end up loosing time untill kgs notices you have disconnected
tappaiyok [?\]: or a couple
measwel [5d\]: If its connection loss, then rematch would be fair. If its a time loss, then I guess the win should go to Chipotle.
SAlexander [?\]: ok
urtok [8k\]: chyba przerwało internet Mateuszowi
Seimeitaek [?\]: it should be played later
FightorDie [8k\]: any up for fun rengo?
ddhytgbdd: agreemea
Tlina [-\]: Chipotle doesn't say anything?
Uberdude [6d\]: mateusz is known to play at very end of byo yomi period, playing out a lost game for the time win is probably strongest strategy for AGA players
SAlexander [?\]: i can confirm that russian internet generally sucks though
comeon [6d\]: and stil no 'Thank you' from surma?
LiCho: Surma won this game
JeansebL [1d?\]: ofc surma will say he clicked on time, and it somehow lagged, even if someone was there with him, there's no way to judge this
Welvang [6d\]: why would any of them say thank you on this point, they are still waiting
ToDie [1d?\]: was there a "thank you" from eric?^^
drakula [-\]: I've played before it even started calculating last 10 seconds
FightorDie [8k\]: just surprised all
comeon [6d\]: where is the thank yous!
Aram [2k\]: in a tournament like this.. trusting consumer connections and a go server you dont have control, the judges need to give this to surma
comeon [6d\]: :)
SAlexander [?\]: i don't get why everyone's so salty
fdhfh: that's why you don't click in the last seconds onlne
ddhytgbdd: here ill say it THANK YOU
ZeNit [?\]: This is an internet tournament, surely they have rules in place for situations like this. Losing on time probably just means losing.
HKA [3d?\]: Eric is waiting on an official ruling
Seimeitaek [?\]: okay. 
Aram [2k\]: surma just said he played with 10 seconds left.. thats not last second..
zumeo [-\]: it is a "game of trones" script ?
kneh [4k\]: on kgs if you notice that your move doesn't register, disconnect immediately and rejoin the game
kneh [4k\]: otherwise you can run out of time waiting for kgs to respond
Welvang [6d\]: yeah with kgs you gotta know how to alt + tab Quit kgs client and restart fast
Welvang [6d\]: no jokes
measwel [5d\]: If he really played with 10 sec left, then its a connection problem.
tappaiyok [?\]: @SAlexander I agree - noone says anything, yet, and people are already getting worked up
PondTurtle [3k\]: why do they play on KGS of all servers anyway?
Aram [2k\]: no jokes.. only joke is if this isnt continued..
SAlexander [?\]: pond, ogs is no better though
measwel [5d\]: Rematch is fair in any case I think.
anton007 [-\]: Aram,agree
Slowmotion [2d?\]: i can't believe something like this happended on kgs...
ToDie [1d?\]: what are they waiting for? isnt it just over?
Aram [2k\]: continuing the game is fair
Tichu [4d\]: 300 people watching is probably only possible on kgs
ddhytgbdd: i say get the pitch forks and torches ready
szgo [3d\]: no a rematch is not fair because the outcome of this game
szgo [3d\]: is already decided
Shamash [?\]: fair for Eric to see that he was behind and resign
measwel [5d\]: The game was actually decided, so the time loss is of little significance.
Hellhuman [?\]: Rematch fair, lol
Vesuvius [1k\]: everyone go home, the game is over
Shamash [?\]: no
GoSage44 [?\]: No
Aram [2k\]: no
ZeNit [?\]: Following the rules of the tournament would be fair, making up new ones as you don't isn't.
FightorDie [8k\]: seems clear fronts
GoSage44 [?\]: You go home Vesuvius... We rule this chat now
SAlexander [?\]: it's not over but i'll go make some food
Seimeitaek [?\]: continue this game pls.
DarkIBlade [4d?\]: we want rematch 
GoSage44 [?\]: Agreement Zenit
Laman [1d\]: the game has just began
tappaiyok [?\]: both players can read this chat, I don't understand the mentality of someone who is okay with suggsting a resignation to one of the players in a tou])
