(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[Eric Lui]PB[Pavol Lisy]WR[1p]BR[2p]DT[2019-06-09]CP[online-go.com]EV[Transatlantic  Professional Go  Team Championship]RO[6]PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/18205527]WT[AGA]BT[EGF]C[Palko: hi
AlphaReader: hi
Palko: have a nice game!
AlphaReader: you too
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;B[qc]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[pn]
;W[ql]
;B[fq]
;W[jp]
;B[lq]
;W[eq]
;B[fp]
;W[dn]
;B[fm]
;W[in]
;B[ko]
;W[hp]
;B[gn]
;W[il]
;B[dl]
;W[er]C[Legault: what sequence cuts through?
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;B[jm]C[Karlathian: Do you mean f5? naaddon?
S_Alexander: remember when we had pro vs pro game last time?
Gkko: the cut doesn't work
Animiral: On OGS, this would happen instantly. From move 14: K5 J5 J4 
Animiral: or this. From move 15: L4 M4 M5 
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;W[im]C[herbie: xD
Legault: Yeah you lot certainly enjoy a fight
Legault: Made me run off to IGS for a while
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Only move. From move 22: J9 
S_Alexander: play on foxy
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;B[gk]C[Cezary: is there a mac client for fox?
smog山人: hmm getting pretty close to tengen with two open corners ripe for approach still
smog山人: no, Cezary 
S_Alexander: 150!
OndraKruml: docela cerny vlaje :O
herbie: someone should screenshot highest viewer counts
S_Alexander: i'm on it
anoek: we passed 300 in game 5 :) about two hours in iirc
herbie: wow
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Loose connection... I think A or B would be my only considerations, C could be possible.. From move 23: 
Legault: G2 definitely feels nice
Legault: Passive though
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;W[pp]C[Karlathian: oh wow
herbie: o.o
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: White won't play it, it's marked to show it's there
S_Alexander: go in!
Rasgueo: Dat contact
Legault: Can't be a classic KGS game forever
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Whites attach is a probe
Gkko: no it's not
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;B[qq]C[S_Alexander: i think white's not probing, they're going in
Gkko: this is the standard AI approach to the two-space, and it's not a probe
Decros: 1st mistake
Rasgueo: passive?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Gkko
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: This isn't an approach
Animiral: It depends on the response. If w tenukis now, it was a probe ^^
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It's an attachment
S_Alexander: that's how you approach this, with attachment, so it's attachment-approach 
Gkko: the attachment inside is the standard approach
Razza99: https://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtKibitz
herbie: xD
AdamR: The twitch commentary is now live: https://www.twitch.tv/usgoweb
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: White already approached..
S_Alexander: commentary started 
Fuseques: please move this to the philosophy chat room
trohde: Twitch en Français: https://www.twitch.tv/HisokaH:
HouWang: 160 viewers would love to see you guys explaining the difference between approach and attachment
S_Alexander: offer a better topic then
Gkko: Nah, I think they'd rather read your sass
S_Alexander: eric is on fire from two wins 
HouWang: I write, if I have something to say - now I'm watching the game
smog山人: approaches and attachments, this game has it all B)
herbie: I wonder if I can listen to both the English and French commentary at the same time >.>;
S_Alexander: HouWang: that's not the kibitzer way!
smog山人: there's only one official stream, herbs
martin3141: is r4 good?
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;W[qf]C[herbie: ooh
S_Alexander: it's a probe after all
herbie: I was about to sayy the open corners were bothering me xD
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;B[od]C[sanic_BOOM: not a probe
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;W[pi]C[sanic_BOOM: white is going to activate that white stone like an almond
S_Alexander: ideal shape from white
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;B[ij]C[martin3141: I don't see a great way to continue for white on lower right
Welvang: Funky fuseki
Reveron: thisislikeKGSgames
Animiral: not an obvious way anyway. 
Animiral: r4 -> p4 hane at the head of 2
herbie: trohde the French commentary link tells me "sorry, unless you've got a time machine that content is unavailable"
S_Alexander: did you remove colon at the end?
sanic_BOOM: thatll do it
herbie: oh woops
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;W[qp]C[sanic_BOOM: $10 that someone will get atari'd in this game
trohde: Oh, sorry for that … Twitch FRANÇAIS: https://www.twitch.tv/HisokaH
S_Alexander: i remember i was told allowing hane on top of two is bad 
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;B[rn]C[S_Alexander: life was so simple back then
martin3141: if p4, white can play s3 s2 s5 I think
Animiral: oh wow! Now things get interesting
Animiral: I thought this was ok, black has it easy enough. From move 30: P4 S3 S2 S5 
S_Alexander: black wants to make white suffer as much as possible?
sanic_BOOM: way to make this chat political
sanic_BOOM: we're just trying to watch some good Go
martin3141: hehe
clywzach: interesting moves
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Going out on limb here but I think black is already behind
Animiral: S_Alexander: yes, it's getting aggressive. Maybe he's thinking of black's natural disadvantage and trying to overcome it
S_Alexander: black is waiting for a gap to strike 
Stormwolf: is white's group on the right getting in trouble?
Stormwolf: because of S6
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;W[oq]C[sanic_BOOM: locally, looks like right can lose base
sanic_BOOM: but white has komi
S_Alexander: revert to 3-3 
sanic_BOOM: therefore, white was winning from the start
martin3141: difficult to say one side is behind at this point, the fight is just starting.
S_Alexander: Yoonyoung is here!
Animiral: We could also say that w is already behind because j10 is good direction and q11 might be slack
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;B[rp]C[Animiral: emphasis on *could*, I mean that I don't know :>
S_Alexander: no transatlantic referees today? 
S_Alexander: and no crosscut? 
S_Alexander: andy called Q4 testing move
Kamelotusky: there must be one, but not necessarily talking here :P
herbie: crosscut could do this.... From move 33: S3 S2 S5 T3 R6 R7 R5 S7 Q7 
herbie: xD
Here We Go: I thought it was a bit unusual for the ref to be commenting on the game last time
キツネ囲碁: 1. From move 33: S3 S2 S5 T3 R6 T5 R5 S7 
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;W[mq]C[S_Alexander: wow
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 8 should be here. From move 33: S3 S2 S5 T3 R6 R7 R5 P4 
herbie: but the double atari?
Fuseques: this herbie. From move 33: S3 S2 S5 T3 R6 R7 R5 Q7 S7 P4 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: This is painful. From move 33: S3 S2 S5 T3 R6 R7 R5 P4 Q7 S7 P5 O4 P7 O5 P6 
martin3141: I'd think this. From move 33: S3 S2 S5 T3 R6 P4 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: This is also painful. From move 33: S3 S2 S5 T3 R6 R7 R5 P4 S7 Q7 S9 Q5 T6 
herbie: because it lets black take the bottom easily?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Yes
herbie: I see, thank you =)
Kamelotusky: Yes, indeed, it was really weird the ref commenting the game xD
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;B[lp]C[S_Alexander: solid
martin3141: p5?
Fuseques: herbie, anyway the more annoying cut is s5 and not s3
herbie: oh
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;W[mo]C[Fuseques: black has to defend r3 and q3 regardless of where you cut from, so cutting at s3 is just free ponuki
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I imagine m7 is Pavols next move with the way he's been playing.
Animiral: that's not a bad idea
martin3141: is n7 unreasonable?
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;B[or]C[mirreke: keeping both weak white groups separated 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I think n7 would be better
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: This just feels like the wrong direction -.-
S_Alexander: maybe black is trying to take care of cutting problems?
Animiral: yeah, white is going to get out now
Fuseques: get out with what? O.O
martin3141: fix the shape in the corner, then come back to m7 maybe
explorebaduk: I don't like how this game is developing for Pavol 
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;W[mp]C[S_Alexander: he'll be fine
S_Alexander: he likes fights, right?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Black missed a chance p2 @ n7
explorebaduk: He likes to fight, but not with weak stones :- ) 
Animiral: Fuseques: I was thinking something like m7+p7 while b spends another move connecting
S_Alexander: 200!
martin3141: now m7 I guess
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: The only weak stones are dead stones
mirreke: black is now alive in the corner?
srazu: m2
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Yes mirreke
GlennMartenRobin: L6?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: M2 is slow
Fuseques: animiral, you treat the q4 stones as something that must be saved
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: M7 or n7 should be next 
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;B[jo]C[Animiral: good point, they are expendable now
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;W[io]C[S_Alexander: prepare M7?
GlennMartenRobin: L9?
clywzach: black going to lose chance for g2?
clywzach: i mean white
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: They aren't expendable now
herbie: I guess white is leaving the q4 stones now, but surely not the n5 stones?
herbie: I mean black cutting at p4 would kill the q4 stones right?
martin3141: what about l9
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;B[lm]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: L9 nothing but knight moves
S_Alexander: get strong at keima
herbie: xD
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;W[mm]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Just imagine Kappa.... From move 41: M2 L2 K2 N2 O2 M1 Q2 P4 P1 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: For those who get serious it was a joke varations, chill.
Animiral: It looks like w is getting torn apart. s6 paid off
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;B[ml]C[Gkko: black's group is not safe either though
Carlos Danker: white needs some sente
Animiral: Black is completely safe because white is weak.
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;W[nl]C[Gkko: white isn't weak if the group dies...?
Animiral: White cannot attack from this weak position, the black group will not just die
mirreke: white might loose if the group dies?
Carlos Danker: incomming cut
clywzach: cut seems like what white wants
gemm: not sure the cut works
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;B[lk]C[Gkko: black has no choice but to protect eventually
Animiral: b is looking for the right shape to force g2 connection from white, then he can capture on the right (maybe)
clywzach: but now if white has to play g2 then cut?
gemm: yes
gemm: seems like w can't save both group
martin3141: l8 for white?
clywzach: cut seems a bit more flexible for right group compared to if w g2 earlier 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 🤣😂. From move 45: L8 M8 M5 L4 L7 
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;W[ln]C[Kountch: Black will L7 instead of M8 after L8
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: L8 L7
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Yes I know
gemm: what's m6 i dont get it
Recursion: If you click on his profile he's shown as Andy Liu 1p
Carlos Danker: trying to kill
martin3141: ?. From move 45: L8 L7 O7 G2 K8 M8 K10 
Animiral: it looks like white is simply helping black fix his shape
S_Alexander: white also needs to play G2 at some point
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Protects the group. From move 46: L7 G2 O7 P7 O6 P6 O5 P5 
Recursion: Sorry, wrong chat
Here We Go: Lol
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Attack!. From move 45: L8 L7 O7 J3 
herbie: it happens
martin3141: this though. From move 46: L7 G2 O6 
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;B[km]C[herbie: does g2 really connect white? can't the keima be cut?
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;W[mk]
;B[ll]C[martin3141: oh wait, never mind
Animiral: why not?
clywzach: how is blacks position if this attack gets no real profit other than the lower right corner and few stones in the middle around g9?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: He attac, He protec, he connect!
Hordur: [object Object\]
beedr: one wrong move and G2 would be gone for good
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;W[fo]C[Beret: o6 peep fails. From move 47: G2 O6 O7 N6 P6 O5 P5 O4 
clywzach: wow
S_Alexander: boom
herbie: nvm I see how g2 works
Recursion: Is there a site like sesse for go?
Here We Go: Wrong chat again?
Animiral: clywzach: This attack was cheap for black, maybe 10 points potential. He'll make it up even if w lives everywhere
S_Alexander: someone was talking about cutting there lol
S_Alexander: Recursion: no
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;B[go]C[Recursion: Lol, thanks S_alexander
Claint: [object Object\]
Carlos Danker: g2?
martin3141: oh will white play f6?
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;W[fn]C[clywzach: does f6 work
clywzach: oh
TemitopeAjileye: @cly W is currently not in the process of gaining influence to balance captured stones, so is black captures, even if small, W is on the loosing side, imho
herbie: what's with people creating reviews in the middle of the game? xD
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Cry😭😭😭. From move 52: G4 G7 H7 G8 H8 F8 F9 E7 E8 F7 H6 H9 J9 H10 H11 G10 F10 G11 G12 F11 E11 F12 F13 E12 D12 E13 E14 D13 C13 D14 D15 C14 B14 C15 C16 
clywzach: never will eric defend so passively lol
S_Alexander: they accidentally press review instead of analysis  
Animiral: maybe people know there is an AI review and they think that is it :>
herbie: haha, both make sense xD
Here We Go: We should ask them
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;B[eo]
;W[en]
;B[gp]C[herbie: does black not need to close the cut at g4?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 好吃😋. From move 52: G4 G7 H7 G8 H8 F8 F9 E7 E8 F7 H9 H6 J3 K3 J4 H3 J2 H2 K2 F2 C14 
herbie: and right as  I say it xD
gemm: g2 doesn't work anymore now
Razza99: herbie 2p
herbie: eh? no way it's only logical o.o
martin3141: white g8?
GlennMartenRobin: I don't get the E5 exchange
GlennMartenRobin: It must be really clever
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It is
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Shortage of liberties on the group
杯酒释兵权: h9
gemm: h9 better than g9 ?
martin3141: black is anticipating to give up the f7 stone if white cuts at g7, so he made this exchange first (I think)
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: If white tries to cut directly.. From move 55: G7 H7 G8 H8 F8 E7 
Animiral: martin3141: can't he exchange after the cut?
martin3141: yeah maybe
Animiral: I'm also wondering what the exchange is about
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It's messy.
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;W[gm]C[S_Alexander: cut first!
herbie: ask questions later xD
Welvang: really, cut ?
martin3141: I thought g8 was a good option for white
Welvang: looks wrong to me 
Animiral: 9. From move 56: H7 G8 H8 F8 F9 E8 E9 E7 H6 H9 J9 
herbie: please enlighten us Welvang-sensei =o
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;B[hm]
;W[gl]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 10. From move 58: H8 F8 F9 E7 E8 F7 H6 H9 J9 
martin3141: pavol will show us
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Doesn't work animiral
explorebaduk: This cut looks like an overplay, I agree
杯酒释兵权: i really wish white would play at H9, so beautiful
trohde: a ladder for measly kyus like me. From move 58: H8 F8 F9 E8 H6 H9 J9 H10 H11 G10 F10 G11 G12 F11 E11 F12 F13 E12 D12 E13 E14 D13 C13 D14 D15 C14 B14 C15 
Animiral: is eric really getting at this broken ladder?
MooToYouToo: feel like it's going to be something to do with D5
Gkko: it's a net, not a ladder
martin3141: white should capture, then its ladder. From move 58: H8 F8 F9 E7 
Animiral: it looks out of the question for me. But if he read it all out... wow
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: WHITE WONT PLAY 4. From move 58: H8 F8 F9 E8 H6 H9 E9 E7 J9 H10 H11 G10 G11 F10 E10 F11 F12 E11 D11 E12 E13 D12 C12 D13 D14 C13 
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;B[hl]
;W[fl]C[Carlos Danker: can't the players see the chat?
herbie: no
herbie: not during the game
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: No
Carlos Danker: good
S_Alexander: ladder works for white, right?
S_Alexander: so what black do?
neodar0830: could you imagine, "chat is moving so fast no one would know im about to ladder"
martin3141: but there's a lack of liberties for white on the left in that case
neodar0830: @s_alexander, right now it works for white
trohde: dis beta 4 B? (measly Kyu var.). From move 60: F9 E8 H6 H9 J9 H10 E9 E7 H11 G10 G11 F10 E10 F11 F12 E11 D11 E12 E13 D12 C12 D13 D14 C13 B13 C14 C15 B14 B15 
Welvang: even if ladders works, the shape is poor, and black will get a strong influence...Also there is aji at d5, I'm pretty sure white had many better ways to play.
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: D5 am I doesn't work
Gkko: 2 takes instead @trohde
Animiral: trohde: the point is that w does not play e8
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;B[hn]C[clywzach: when 2 takes the ladder does work for white
Animiral: so black is missing a forcing move at e9 to make the better ladder
clywzach: wow
S_Alexander: huh, i thought there's no reason to not atari 
S_Alexander: prepare D5?
martin3141: preserving the option to e7
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Yes
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Smart
AlbertYen: black winrate at 60% right now
AlbertYen: M6 was a big mistake
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;W[el]C[AlbertYen: it should've been at L8
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Trouble in the jungle. From move 61: H9 J9 H10 E7 
Gkko: AI winrates don't matter during fights tbh
trohde: thx everybody ;-) I just have this urge to expose my lack of understanding 😂
S_Alexander: black got out and it's fine 
Carlos Danker: leela knows nothing about the real world xD
AlbertYen: fight is mostly over
Welvang: now e9 is happy
AlbertYen: white sacrificed middle group for left side
Oni: \\o from kisakatsomo
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;B[ek]C[herbie: middle group could still live I feel like?
Welvang: white can still connect on the bottom
Welvang: k2 and g2 combo
neodar0830: i once used leela to help me get to work but she kept telling me to shoulder hit the other cars :(
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;W[fk]
;B[fj]
;W[em]C[sanic_BOOM: I do that, but leela didnt have to tell me
Animiral: This looks great for black
S_Alexander: are there rules regarding misclicks?
neodar0830: man, no memes in the go chats huh
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Yes
trohde: ZOMG SO MANY CUTTING POINTS
AlbertYen: I wonder why H6 wasn't at F9
AlbertYen: it seems like a mistake
S_Alexander: 250!
Animiral: I believe the rule is: misclick - too bad
herbie: I imagine so
herbie: wouldn't make sense to allow undos in something like this
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I would post one but it lost an eye and died in gote
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;B[hk]C[herbie: S_Alexander: ikr? xD If you didn't catch the screenshot I think I got it xX
Animiral: AlbertYen: on Twitch they explained that if w cuts, black was going to drag out the stone and not have it captured
S_Alexander: oh yea, i don't actually make screenshots, so it's on you :)
Animiral: 11. From move 61: H9 J9 H10 E7 
herbie: what? I was counting on you!
herbie: I'm not here 100% of the time lol
kharn: Can white connect with g2?
S_Alexander: i'm only recording the value
Animiral: kharn: I assume so
kharn: Thx
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;W[ej]C[Animiral: oh, they found on Twitch that he can't
Animiral: pro commentary ^^
kharn: :(
martin3141: even with white k2?
sameasyou: [object Object\]
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Tsumego time: Level AlphaMaster white to live.
Animiral: Twitch variation. From move 67: K2 L2 G2 F2 F1 H3 G3 H2 G1 H1 E1 K1 
mpizzzle: he can still connect though right? threaten with k2, try and monkey jump out either side?
S_Alexander: how about black to live with two stones?
Cezary: should black connect d9 ?
sanic_BOOM: spoiler: white will kill L6 group
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;B[ei]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: At least white can reduce in sente!. From move 67: K2 L2 G2 F2 F1 H3 H2 J3 K3 J4 G3 H5 J2 H4 
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;W[dk]
;B[dj]C[martin3141: yeah, black wouldn't try to cut the 4 stones at j5
herbie: hm, so the middle group is just for aji later now?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Oh man f2 is huge now...
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It's as big as an approach or 3-3
aoirinban: Just points
martin3141: probably bigger i believe
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;W[jr]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: And her we go!
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Here
Carlos Danker: poggers
kharn: Just waiting of the ko fight to begin to escape?
beedr: The fun never dies :)
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Also possible?. From move 72: J3 K3 H3 M2 J4 
kharn: That is why the life of a DDK is bliss!
martin3141: i think black should tenuki
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Eh nvm
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Doesn't work
martin3141: like, o9 or something
Animiral: maybe these probes can help. From move 72: E4 D5 D3 D2 C3 C2 
herbie: black m2 ...?
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;B[hq]C[S_Alexander: noo
herbie: huh
cromone: m2
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Animiral, e9 was captured white no longer needs to connect directly
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;W[lr]C[S_Alexander: let connect and kill the whole thing 
herbie: ko ?. From move 74: L3 L2 K3 J3 J2 H2 J4 
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;B[iq]C[herbie: ooh
Carlos Danker: 5 stone sacrifice?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Reduced in sente!
jakubiszon: giving up j5 group is not that much
Beret: Is o2 important for both here?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Miai Herbie. From move 74: L3 H2 
Animiral: o2 looks very slow, I don't think white needs it
Carlos Danker: o2 is endgame
Kountch: Who is better now?
maxmakinen8: quite even
Carlos Danker: white got territory black influence?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: White slightly
Recursion: Are we allowed to use leela to answer chat questions?
afar: Yes
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: You can
neodar0830: [object Object\]
Carlos Danker: you can try but it won't work recursion
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: But you'll look like a shmuck 
jakubiszon: how does one ask lila in the chat?
Recursion: Leela says it's very complicated, about even and O2 is but not right away
Recursion: *is important
sanic_BOOM: delete system32, and that will unlock Leela functionality on OGS
Animiral: Recursion: it's very hard to interpret Leela output. Just the win% is a bit spammy ;-)
jakubiszon: @sanic_BOOM thx, I'll start with format c:
sanic_BOOM: :D
]
;W[gc]C[Animiral: sanic_BOOM: you forgot to mention that CTRL+w activates 30000 playout mode
bigpickle: -bash: delete: command not found
S_Alexander: two spaces, want it all
sanic_BOOM: sudo rm -rf / might work
Beret: tenuki only move!
Recursion: rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I wanted this . From move 75: K3 J4 F17 
jakubiszon: lol
]
;B[ck]C[bigpickle: Well... if I write that it'll leave me in a big pickle.
Gkko: confident tenuki !
Recursion: wtf black
sanic_BOOM: The all-powerful OGS Score Estimator favors white
trohde: LOL, B channeled me 😂
]
;W[ek]C[Here We Go: That's mad
]
;B[di]C[Animiral: run estimator again and it will favor black 
Welvang: c9 so big
Animiral: on the same position
S_Alexander: looks like white is slightly better, psychologically 
Darkkkk: hmm
Carlos Danker: estimator changes it's mind more easy than my girlfriend
Welvang: Was thinking the opposite, he played 13 stones on 4x4 and they make 1 point
jakubiszon: in this case ask your girlfiend for opinions
Welvang: cannot feel good
Animiral: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
smog山人: that is 1 very secure point though
S_Alexander: 1 point is only 1 eye
Recursion: @Welvang thanks for commentating here, would you prefer to be black here?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Later I imagine . From move 79: B8 C8 K3 J4 B7 
S_Alexander: at least black is winning on time, that's for sure
]
;W[ce]C[jakubiszon: wouldn't white prefer to keep 3 as a big ko threat?
smog山人: safe and secure I like it
gemm: can't black revert and attack the left white group now
Welvang: I think white was in really good position before he cut at G7...Huge blunder. now it's still kinda even but I favor black, there is so much aji in the bottom left corner
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Sure, I just played it cuz it bothers me
TemitopeAjileye: How big is the cut at O7?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Lol. From move 80: C7 
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: E5 stone ahi lives again!
Animiral: so that's what the exchange was aiming at 
jakubiszon: is d5 any threat to white?
]
;B[bn]C[S_Alexander: hoho
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: A loss in corner points?
dead_robot: cut o7 seems quite a move
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Potentially death
jakubiszon: and also is there any chance to cut o7 and kill all ?
]
;W[co]C[derpziIIa: no
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Nope o7 doesn't work
Recursion: black also has a slight time advantage
Animiral: Reminder for new to the chat ;-). From move 82: O7 P7 O6 P6 O5 P5 
derpziIIa: o7 is actually better for w, b can do a lot more damage
Beret: @Temitope white can sacrifice the n7 stone tolive
LosesALot: 12. From move 82: O7 P7 O6 P6 O5 P5 
]
;B[nr]C[S_Alexander: B6 looks like a good exchange for black
Carlos Danker: lol probs to the ddk who called o2
Beret: I'm not ddk
Animiral: props to Beret
Carlos Danker: sry ?
Animiral: \\o/
estrange: n17
Beret: Not a broblem
]
;W[mr]C[bigpickle: bropably a good move
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I want to probe. From move 84: Q9 
dead_robot: P5 and then o7
martin3141: black p5, white won't answer with p4
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Whats p5?
Gkko: white has no reason to defend the Q4 stones
martin3141: a move
Beret: twitch commentry is on
Kretzsche: why not p8 :P
martin3141: j17?
]
;B[nm]
;W[om]C[Recursion: j17 is leelazeros move
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Seems like fun. From move 86: N6 O6 P8 N7 O9 O7 Q7 P9 Q8 O10 R9 
]
;B[nn]
;W[on]C[S_Alexander: who said O7 doesn't work?
Animiral: LOL
derpziIIa: oh my
Animiral: I did
Animiral: same as o2
Welvang: that is painful
dead_robot: P8
derpziIIa: idid
Gkko: well, it does not cut
]
;B[ol]C[Animiral: brb uprooting some potted plants, I need to bury my face
Carlos Danker: man.. welvang is just suffering the whole game
TemitopeAjileye: wow
]
;W[pm]C[S_Alexander: this is good for black right? otherwise he wouldn't play it?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 13. From move 90: O5 P5 O9 P4 R9 
]
;B[nk]
;W[qn]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Oh man 4am, I'm not read... at all lol
]
;B[op]C[martin3141: just go to sleep
Animiral: S_Alexander: it's some sente pushisuji for black, shallow moves but what do I know
]
;W[oo]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I have a plane to catch in 2 hours
Kretzsche: id agree with that if that makes you feel betetr
]
;B[nq]
;W[no]C[martin3141: not sure if these exchanges were profitable for black
TemitopeAjileye: B  can make point in the centre
Recursion: @martin3141 I think Leela thinks so, but maybe they just simplified the position
maxmakinen8: martin3141, according to the bots, these were very profitable for black, specially since he gets sente now to play elsewhere
]
;B[ic]C[maxmakinen8: as j17 :)
]
;W[mc]C[S_Alexander: 300!
martin3141: hm
martin3141: by the way
Darkkkk: D18 
martin3141: if winrate goes up, it doesn't necessarily mean the position got better (for the winning side)
maxmakinen8: can E17 as well
Darkkkk: or e18
clywzach: this feels sad for white
]
;B[nc]C[Sexy Toaster: it hurts my soul
martin3141: just yeah, if one side is ahead, winrate will naturally go up as the game progresses, even with perfect play by both sides.
Recursion: martin3141 I think mostly simpler, it was showing crazy (to me ddk) stuff in the lower right corner
]
;W[id]C[GOkyle: White's position stays light. From move 100: 
S_Alexander: 100 moves
Animiral: GOkyle: you need to be in the variation to share it
]
;B[jd]
;W[hd]C[smog山人: the last 10 seconds of main time are the most stressful because the countdown lady starts immediate lol
Carlos Danker: c13? :(
Gkko: why the long face
jmdingess: you can disable the countdown lady in settings
Cezary: leela is fixed on c13
Recursion: @Carlos that's leela's move!
Carlos Danker: I'm kinda for andy
Cezary: 190k visits
]
;B[je]C[smog山人: yea I did, but did mr lui?
Cezary: whereas this k15 had 500 visits
]
;W[nb]
;B[ob]C[smog山人: ait I'll get off so I can get away from bot chat .. laters guys :)
S_Alexander: white's in byo-yomi
martin3141: we need a chat for bots
Recursion: Tell me if I'm spamming too much bot stuff
Here We Go: Fine by me
pynxy: Go Palko!!!
S_Alexander: do they know how new UI works?
]
;W[jc]
;B[kc]
;W[jb]C[Animiral: they used to play on KGS before and it's pretty much the same
Gkko: I guess they've been told
]
;B[ib]C[Beret: I want to know what Leela thinks
S_Alexander: mmmm
starduck4: leela hated that last move
S_Alexander: does this work?
Kountch: I expected L18
Recursion: Leela thinks black misclicked
starduck4: 30% swing
TemitopeAjileye: crap
Darkkkk: [object Object\]
Animiral: I expected m17
]
;W[nd]C[OndraKruml: ohlala
]
;B[oc]C[Cezary: :o
Recursion: $*!%#!*
S_Alexander: welp, this not fair 
starduck4: white now 58% expecting L18
ممكن: what just happened??
]
;W[kb]
;B[lb]
;W[lc]
;B[ja]C[Perezoso Rancio: something like this?. From move 114: L19 L16 K19 L17 N18 
]
;W[kd]
;B[ka]C[Recursion: I think black misclicked
TemitopeAjileye: interesting
]
;W[kc]
;B[mb]C[ممكن: oopsie
Gkko: why, Recursion?
Animiral: black is complicating again
Gkko: this works for black
]
;W[hb]
;B[na]C[S_Alexander: you don't really misclick like that
martin3141: it "works" but is probably bad
Kountch: Black wants to attack
Recursion: that was a huge swing, from 80% to 40%
Gkko: why is it bad?
]
;W[ke]
;B[jf]C[Cezary: but leela is pretty stupid with these %
Cezary: i mean
Kountch: Swing in favor of white ?
]
;W[kf]
;B[jg]C[Cezary: she mostly likes only one move and thinks rest are bad
martin3141: I don't think white will have trouble saving this group
Sexy Toaster: Slovakian Slam
TemitopeAjileye: W can destroy the centre and remove aji from top...
]
;W[kg]C[afar: Gkko: Probably because black can't attack strongly enough, so it would have been better to play differently
Cezary: it's back to 50/50 anyway 
S_Alexander: black can get it back into 50/50
Recursion: Does it have to do with having less aji in the top left corner?
]
;B[og]C[Carlos Danker: hane ontop of 3 stones?
Animiral: this must be bad in the eyes of Leela ^^
Animiral: brutal hane incoming
Recursion: @Animiral how can you tell?
Beret: It looks dangerous to leave out k12
Welvang: this is where Palko shines
Animiral: hm, p13 is human-style restlessness
Animiral: Palko style
S_Alexander: i really hope this works out
maxmakinen8: white will be under white pressure here
]
;W[hc]
;B[ia]C[Recursion: Could you elaborate for ddks why is it palko style? Lots of fighting?
maxmakinen8: *time pressure
S_Alexander: complicating in byo-yomi, heh 
Animiral: sure, there is nothing complicated about it. When the stones go marching, you must not fall behind.
]
;W[ne]C[Animiral: That means white hane at k12 is very tough for black
Animiral: You can read it out, but it's a basic principle
Gkko: I think it was about P13
]
;B[pf]C[Animiral: Normally, you make a fist before you strike. You get solid and then you can attack from a strong position. Black p13 is a premature attack.
Kretzsche: but b is so thick in the center everywhere
Welvang: white should go r13  and try to live 
Sadiker: K12
pynxy: K12 worksn't
Welvang: but is it doable
Gkko: I like what black is probably getting on the right
Recursion: According to leela, both players are playing very very well in this area
Animiral: I'd like to add that proverbs don't apply if you read it out ^^
maxmakinen8: how about white K12, black tenuki into R13 for example?
maxmakinen8: white needs to add to kill those 4, and black gets something else again
]
;W[la]
;B[ma]C[martin3141: I think black will answer k12, probably with h13. Not sure if white can get much there.
maxmakinen8: is h13 bigger than taking the right top?
Recursion: h13 is sente
Recursion: (according to leela)
martin3141: i mean, white is not alive yet
clywzach: lizzie likes white position now
SzyHar: G7 G7
]
;W[qg]
;B[mg]C[maxmakinen8: woah, brave from white
Kretzsche: this greedy so and so , go punish him _D
S_Alexander: kill!
Recursion: @clywzach how many playouts?
kharn: I like Pavol
kharn: 's styule
maxmakinen8: so white felt that r13 was too big to allow for black and that he can live?
]
;W[mf]C[pynxy: B+R I root
Kountch: If white lives, black needs points
]
;B[lg]C[Welvang: Palko going "this is spartaaa"
martin3141: black must kill at this point, I think
]
;W[ng]C[Kretzsche: surely s7 must be the largest move now :D
Welvang: Even if he doesn't kill, it's still a game
clywzach: well lizzie liked it before white played r13 but it was still very close in terms of %. now it seems hard
]
;B[nh]C[Welvang: But then he need to get something out of the attack
Welvang: But right now he's going for the kill
explorebaduk: He is killing this !
Recursion: Welvang where can black make points if white lives?
]
;W[of]
;B[nf]C[mimano: what a great game to watch
Welvang: Well this is a gain already
]
;W[ha]
;B[la]
;W[ng]C[JeansebL: B is at 85% (200k playouts, LZ228)
Gkko: these timesujis must be bitter now
Welvang: I don't like this ko
Welvang: for white
Gkko: they were all local ko threats
杯酒释兵权: p15
pynxy: I like disco for black
Sexy Toaster: disco is sexy
Kountch: Complicated play for byoyomi
Cezary: leela suggests C17 or Q13 or Q15
Kretzsche: i dice palko for balck
Recursion: black used first byoyomi
]
;B[cc]C[TemitopeAjileye: ah!
dsatkas: what?!
S_Alexander: timesuji?
TemitopeAjileye: ko threat
sanic_BOOM: makes more ko threats
dead_robot: c17 is lovely
Kountch: E18 follow up to live?
]
;W[bd]
;B[nf]C[GOkyle: P19
Legault: p15 work as a local threat?
]
;W[jh]
;B[hg]
;W[ng]
;B[dc]C[JakubKratochvl: well does white have enough threats to handle the top left corner?
S_Alexander: 150 moves is where many games are decided 
sanic_BOOM: lies
sanic_BOOM: i lose all my games after move 10
bigpickle: Then only resign at move 150? sanic?
sanic_BOOM: a genius idea!
JeansebL: B is at 91% now :D
]
;W[bc]
;B[nf]C[JeansebL: Go Pavol!
sanic_BOOM: I get it. That's the name of the game they're playing
TemitopeAjileye: XD
]
;W[ih]
;B[gf]
;W[ng]
;B[ed]C[herbie: meeep, I missed some action I see
Gkko: nice ko threats flow for black!
]
;W[ec]C[S_Alexander: giant moth is flying in my room
]
;B[nf]C[TemitopeAjileye: the ko is becoming bigger
Carlos Danker: turn of lämp
Carlos Danker: f
]
;W[hh]C[martin3141: when pavol played j18, I didn't like it. Now I like it hehe
Legault: if black takes p15 here, white has to fix l12 right?
pynxy: I like black disc ko for pal
Gkko: chat not 9p after all
Legault: so then black blocks g12
SzyHar: Tanguy, please tell us what you think, the twitch commentary is useless 
Beret: Andy Liu says he doesn't bother with reading
]
;B[fg]
;W[ng]C[mimano: yes - twitch com is not that amazing
]
;B[eb]
;W[fc]
;B[nf]
;W[fh]C[Welvang: My thought is that creating this ko was a big mistake
Beret: I probably misinterpreted that
Carlos Danker: whoops white's upper left dead now?
]
;B[eg]
;W[ng]C[Gkko: no
SzyHar: Btw, since you're in the chat, congratulations on your pro title!
NeonLights: cheaters going to cheat
Welvang: and white answer at b16 was not safe because black got tons of ko threats, + there is semedori so he already loses points, and move like b14 is sente, so b got already a lot of points from the attack even if white lives
]
;B[bb]C[Welvang: Thanks
]
;W[nf]C[maxmakinen8: wow
Welvang: Don't relay too much on what is say tho, watch the twitch it's super interesting :)
wootfish: whoa
sanic_BOOM: have to admire commitment
S_Alexander: whoever blinks first loses 
Kretzsche: why did b not play p15 instead of ko thread?
Welvang: If it is personal point of view, i'd say gg b win
]
;B[ab]C[pynxy: L12 still is a big cut
Welvang: white has to come back at e15 but also there is cut at L12
S_Alexander: at this point it would be a good transatlantic tradition to play out to the end
]
;W[ee]C[Recursion: Hoping for disconnect
sanic_BOOM: that's low
]
;B[bf]C[NeonLights: i love Ronald Reagen
Here We Go: Shoosh
Jihadist: Andy must pull off an Andy here
Jihadist: Fire the DoSCannon
NeonLights: andy is playing for eric?
Here We Go: XD
Recursion: White in SD
]
;W[cf]C[Gkko: white could timeout and ask for a rematch
feldercarb: Eric always goes to the last second.
Jihadist: eh, eric*
Gkko: that would be ultimate class
probicsek: havent they changed the rules? he cannot win by disconnection now
Stormwolf: can someone tells me what SD stands for?
Gkko: sudden death
bigpickle: sudden death
AdamR: Sudden death
Jihadist: Sudden Death
feldercarb: last period
Kretzsche: sudden death
Stormwolf: ah, ok, thank you.
bigpickle: death suddenly
dead_robot: "win by disconnection" what a term
sanic_BOOM: SecureDigital
]
;B[cd]C[martin3141: sudden death
Cezary: sand dragon
TemitopeAjileye: haha
pynxy: Single digit
sanic_BOOM: a common format used in modern storage devices
Here We Go: So much sudden death
Jihadist: sudden disconnect
]
;W[fd]C[Arnold Hau: Short drinking?
S_Alexander: you could make a thingy to appear when mouse hover over SD for beginners 
Cezary: sd stands to honor sadaharu top ranking ogs player
Animiral: Sad Dan
dsatkas: is L12 working?
Lance Cpl. Harold W. Dawson: self distraction
Lance Cpl. Harold W. Dawson: :P
LosesALot: Surely defeated?  
Sadiker: Scioby Doo
]
;B[be]
;W[bg]C[acotis: Super Dingus
]
;B[ad]C[sanic_BOOM: scooby doo was a pretty cool anime
explorebaduk: This game is quite over
S_Alexander: mmm
S_Alexander: wut?
Welvang: that's a bit dangerous
probicsek: took the bait
Recursion: LeelaZ thinks it's even again
probicsek: but what for
Recursion: From 90% to 50%
Kretzsche: w alive now too 
TemitopeAjileye: B can disconnect at L12?
Gkko: well, LZ goes crazy in endgame anyway
Ziggym0nde: game estimator has white by 18
maxmakinen8: yes, black can l12
]
;W[af]
;B[ac]C[S_Alexander: well, I assume Pavol doesn't win calmly?
martin3141: yeah, not sure why black played c16 and b15
NeonLights: Go Artem
TemitopeAjileye: where is artem?
sanic_BOOM: wait
Gkko: Artem?
Recursion: Never resigning is doing really well for Eric
Animiral: LOL Neon
sanic_BOOM: black left is in danger, maybe
]
;W[fi]C[キツネ囲碁: go lee sedol
Jihadist: Go Ali
probicsek: taking 2 stones when large blocks in limbo?
Recursion: Leela Zero prefers white now, (doesn't know about the time situation though)
S_Alexander: i have no idea wtf is happening 
Here We Go: Wow
Oni: o/ Pavol
Recursion: Neither does leela :p
Stormwolf: is F11 sente?
ممكن: now C13 83%
Here We Go: This is some game
Recursion: Yeah, after p11 another huge swing, probably it's just a close game
Beret: w is looking at the e12 cut?
Recursion: * f11
Welvang: Palko had an easy way to end the game, but capturing these two stones was a mistake
yahel.or.3: 15C
clywzach: byo yomi is crazy lol
Welvang: should have focused on cutting l12 instead
Welvang: now it's not easy
]
;B[gj]C[Recursion: oh no
Kretzsche: but he can connect via c13 in sente no?
S_Alexander: stubborn! 
Stormwolf: yeah, i've been wondering why L12 was not being played. Was it small?
Stormwolf: seemed pretty big to me
sanic_BOOM: even G12 is sente/ damn
sanic_BOOM: beaver lodge
gemm: now?. From move 183: G12 
]
;W[gh]C[BHydden: apparently
Recursion: @Stormwolf according to leela black had even simpler ways to win the game, but instead blundered
probicsek: is there a copy to clipbd function?
Welvang: c13 perhaps ?
maxmakinen8: please black, C13
Recursion: please c13 please c13 please c13
Welvang: But still, white was doomed and now it's a game
Here We Go: C13, by popular demand
Welvang: Palko entertaining the fans ^^
Here We Go: XD
Gkko: it's a quite hard to read semeai
mimano: oh yes he is putting on quite the show!
bigpickle: 加油palko!!
TemitopeAjileye: B t15?
S_Alexander: i never knew Pavol was such a crazy guy 
TemitopeAjileye: f15
lukas.kramer.739: what did Palko do...
pynxy: Palko read it all out, he's going to win by 1.5
]
;B[cg]C[Animiral: I think the semeai is good for w
Here We Go: Whey
]
;W[dg]C[Kountch: Is being pro more entertaining than winning ?
]
;B[ch]C[gemm: me too w captures now
S_Alexander: yes, take it home 
Gkko: leela could be misreading the semeai
Welvang: this is
Welvang: spartaa
lukas.kramer.739: Palko :/
gemm: ish?. From move 187: E12 D14 D12 D15 E14 
Darkkkk: G13 
TemitopeAjileye: Now B has enough point if B doesn't die
]
;W[eh]C[NeonLights: Bring back Karl Marx
]
;B[df]C[Welvang: it's scripted
maxmakinen8: black can let F13 die i think
Welvang: :)
TemitopeAjileye: maybe seki?
]
;W[dh]
;B[de]C[sanic_BOOM: spicy steal by white
キツネ囲碁: it can't be seki
martin3141: white c8 will be big
NeonLights: what does seki mean again?
Recursion: Does e14 kill all thos black stones?
Gkko: both groups live @NeonLights 
probicsek: b still wins
]
;W[ef]
;B[cm]C[Gkko: because the only way to atari the opposite group is to self-atari @NeonLights , usually
TemitopeAjileye: I see
TemitopeAjileye: so what does leela say now?
sanic_BOOM: game is suddenly a lot closer
maxmakinen8: TemitopeAjileye, that black is winning large
Recursion: Leela says 80% black, I think
Uberdude: OMG, was this event finally the impetus for OGS to fix their byo yomi display?
Jihadist: b 86 my leela
Gkko: yeah Uberdude
S_Alexander: Uberdude: yes!
Sexy Toaster: yes
Kamelotusky: damn
Recursion: @Uberdude seems so, nice!
]
;W[cj]
;B[ci]C[キツネ囲碁: red is a poor color choice
Stormwolf: can B still work on middle right and bottom left?
Uberdude: mousing over the 13 captures still gives some nonsense
explorebaduk: It's so weird that the game is in yose and people still need confirmation of AI %, before counting themselves...
afar: That's not weird at all
]
;W[bo]C[Jihadist: mate, yose is hard.
explorebaduk: It's weird, people at least tried to count before.
martin3141: I love go, but I hate counting ...
Recursion: @explorebaduk why? Leela thinks it's very complicated
Animiral: I count black ahead by a very small amount
]
;B[ao]C[sanic_BOOM: the almighty OGS SE favors white
Gkko: yose counting still involves tons of reading
S_Alexander: considering what kind of swings just occured it's not weird at all
Stormwolf: can black reduce white on the right side?
Jihadist: counting sucks, its mathematically hard, and fuck doing combinatorical game theory at midnight
キツネ囲碁: leela % doesn't matter in yose, it can be 100% to win by 0.5 so it might as well be any other value at that point
martin3141: its not mathematically hard, its just tedious
Gkko: I think it is
]
;W[ap]
;B[an]C[NeonLights: Is black going to win or w0t
Jihadist: accurate endame is either very hard computationally or mathematically
Gkko: You would have to read all variations
Jihadist: tedious = hard computationally
Recursion: キツネ囲碁 I think there's a difference between 100% and 80%, there are still things to play
sanic_BOOM: I have a pretty cool conclusion
TemitopeAjileye: for an expert player this is simple player. Low kyus like me can still lose a 99% won game
Sadiker: Counting? It's not XX century
sanic_BOOM: Someone will win this game
dead_robot: i imagine black+ 4.5 
]
;W[bp]C[キツネ囲碁: just saying that 1min byoyomi isn't enough to play leela-level yose anyway, so it can show any random % and still be wrong
martin3141: sorry maybe i misunderstood. I was saying "counting" is not mathematically difficult.
Animiral: dead_robot: something like that
キツネ囲碁: due to mistakes
Gkko: yeah, leela hasn't been able to predict much this game
]
;B[rm]C[trohde: @dead_robot: click SE a few more times, then you’ll get different estimates ;-)
sanic_BOOM: dang black got S7
Uberdude: the number of observers is pleasing
Jihadist: @martin i meant endgame. counting "cash" is not very hard.
dead_robot: i don`t use SE, i have my old fashioned head nodding method
]
;W[rl]C[aGOp: how many people watching this game?
]
;B[jq]C[キツネ囲碁: about 2k people
AdamR: 350 at the moment
キツネ囲碁: 1700 on twitch and 350 here
aGOp: thmk you
Beret: I don't count, I just assume I am behind at all times.
Stormwolf: haha
Animiral: 67 vs 73. From move 203: 
Jihadist: i miss xhu commentary
dead_robot: that`s depreseing
trohde: been over 2K on Twich a while ago, IIRC
]
;W[ro]C[Recursion: Thank you @animiral!
Jihadist: andy mumbles a lot about irrelevant stuff too
]
;B[so]C[Gkko: twitch numbers are inflated by front page though
Animiral: +komi
Kretzsche: as if most people who have this open on twitch dont also watch here
]
;W[qo]C[キツネ囲碁: it's up and down, currently 1700, but yes it spiked beyond 2.5k
tam1998: i don't know, after my count i think white will have to fight quite some uphill battle to be competitive in terms of score. but its actually not so easy to evaluate some areas... (e.g. b n13 etc stones)
bigpickle: That's some lovely handwriting Animiral!
]
;B[rr]C[Animiral: thanks, it's lagging like hell
S_Alexander: Gkko: it's not egf twitch though? Does aga have front page privileges?
]
;W[ni]C[bigpickle: How long does it take you to count those areas?
sanic_BOOM: daaaannng
sanic_BOOM: white is goin for those endgame pts\]
Kretzsche: even though we are in end game?
Sadiker: What about s15?
Kretzsche: crazy
Animiral: I'm a very slow counter usually :>
sanic_BOOM: just count "1" for every "+" u see on the board Kappa
sanic_BOOM: ez2count
]
;B[li]C[Gkko: Hmm, I don't know
pynxy: T8 could be bigish
Animiral: w is getting some points around p13 that I did not count, I don't think k3 makes as much
Gkko: There's a bunch of people in twitch chat who have no idea what go is, I assumed they had come in through the front page
]
;W[jj]C[S_Alexander: who knows
]
;B[jk]C[Juippi: when's the time for w b8?
Stormwolf: are there ways to reduce W on the right side?
Animiral: Juippi: w will exchange from the outside (d7, c6)
]
;W[rd]C[Arnold Hau: L12 now?
]
;B[rc]C[Kountch: S16 was big
Kretzsche: l12 doesnt work anymore
Recursion: L12 not even sente
martin3141: l12 is worth a couple of points
Kretzsche: but s17 so much more
]
;W[qd]C[herbie: l2?
]
;B[oh]C[TemitopeAjileye: p12 is ente-ish
]
;W[oi]C[Kretzsche: what does sente-ish mean?
tam1998: close to sente^^
sanic_BOOM: gote
martin3141: not quite sente
Gkko: probably sente
Animiral: It's short for sente-I-wish
sanic_BOOM: ^
sanic_BOOM: nailed it
herbie: xD
Kamelotusky:  haahah
tam1998: it means its sente if your opponent is weaker are you
bigpickle: hahaha
Stormwolf: haha
sanic_BOOM: sente, if ur white in handi
]
;B[kh]C[Jihadist: sente, but its opposite day.
Cezary: my leela just checked all the moves on the board and it turns out there is no bad move for black
Cezary: thats a relief ;p
S_Alexander: this one though
Jihadist: well, "looked at once" isnt exaclty checked.
herbie: so has black pretty much won?
Jihadist: but ye, its pretty clear b win
]
;W[ki]C[aoirinban: not over till its over, as they say
Gkko: any less than 99% is room for a swing
TemitopeAjileye: even 99% is  room for swing
Kretzsche: w may lose l16 yet :D
キツネ囲碁: when is white's turn?. From move 218: 
tam1998: the sente-ish thingy reminds me of this: https://nomadologue.tumblr.com/post/33967870833/this-is-sente-because-black-is-lee-sedol-an
TemitopeAjileye: rather, W needs to count liberties here
]
;B[mh]C[Recursion: lol playing for the crowd
herbie: does white monkey jump g1 or h1 work or does the one space jump at L2 prevent that?
Beret: ko!!!
S_Alexander: wut
sanic_BOOM: cudnt black have been safer with bamboo joint
Recursion: now 50 50 again according to leela
ممكن: what..
S_Alexander: just kill ,e
feldercarb: big ko?
Recursion: From 98% to 45%
ممكن: I dont understand
Carlos Danker: ko again?
Recursion: Misclick, I'm sure
ممكن: why not bamboo?
probicsek: again dropping a win
]
;W[mi]C[sanic_BOOM: yeah bamboo means no wedge
Recursion: No leela likes white
martin3141: huh
ممكن: misclick?
Gkko: I like the rank gore on your name mumkin
Recursion: *now
I.Z.I: we hate leela
Jihadist: LOL
sanic_BOOM: white gets some free medium sized moves out of ko
kakangel: H14 is vital then
JeansebL: after time out, a missclick :)
sanic_BOOM: like C6
Jihadist: leela thinks this was god tier blunder
aoirinban: oh, look
JeansebL: what a great tournament :p
explorebaduk: This move N12.. Palko will regret ...
aoirinban: a ko
probicsek: unbelieve, at this level
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Ouch
TemitopeAjileye: tired
S_Alexander: why why
]
;B[lj]C[bigpickle: Wait, didn't someone say there was no bad move for black! Cezary!
Kretzsche: its rigged
maxmakinen8: what happened
Stormwolf: i'm gonna go riot in the streets if b loses
Cezary: hehe true
]
;W[lh]C[herbie: lol
explorebaduk: How is this even possible....
Recursion: I really seriously think it's a misclick this time
Cezary: im sorry about that
probicsek: there was no bad move, but a there was a sequence of bad moves
]
;B[pe]C[aoirinban: should rules now say that misclicks get undo
probicsek: b could save it even after the bad move
BHydden: illuminati made black throw
ممكن: must be a misclick
sanic_BOOM: the illerminaty
]
;W[pg]C[Recursion: White should win now
Lance Cpl. Harold W. Dawson: why did black create this ko
]
;B[kh]C[Kretzsche: maybe he just says the ko is too big 
Jihadist: eric's cyber capabilities have improved. now he can nudge b's mouse remotely.
Kretzsche: w cant win
dead_robot: w can win
sanic_BOOM: W B10
Gkko: OGS is complicit in the big conspiracy
aoirinban: w has a lot of ko threat around b10
sanic_BOOM: S3 too
clywzach: if black bamboos instead of ko i think andy was saying the loss is too big
Recursion: And J6
sanic_BOOM: T3 better than S3 my bad
Carlos Danker: ko for win lul
]
;W[oa]C[sanic_BOOM: P19 definitely a threat lol
BHydden: Gkko our overlords have informed us we can neither confirm nor deny that ;)
TemitopeAjileye: oh my
sanic_BOOM: jesus
Stormwolf: too much pressure for me
S_Alexander: what a game
Recursion: what a blunder
clywzach: if black takes ko it doesnt threaten liberty race on whites middle so white gets free move elsewhere
Shurix: What does “p” mean in their rankings?
sanic_BOOM: pro dan
DenisWeber: Maybe playing around midnight is more difficult than at noon
Recursion: @Shurix means professional player
]
;B[pa]C[BHydden: Shurix: pro dan
]
;W[lh]C[Kretzsche: just it does threaten the race
Shurix: I see!  Then can you be a Dan player but not pro?
Jihadist: yes
Jihadist: pro is >>>> dan
Recursion: 1p ~ 8d
dead_robot: i regret i didn`t disconnect earlier
martin3141: white was lucky, kinda
sanic_BOOM: I know a guy named Daniel who's a Dan player but he's a kyu
Jihadist: wut
TemitopeAjileye: is there even a ko threat...
AdamR: yeah there are amateur dans, and then there are professional dans. :) 
]
;B[ed]C[TemitopeAjileye: yes!
Recursion: gg, white won
Shurix: Interesting, I had seen the d before, but I haven’t seen the P.  Thanks for clarifying!
Kretzsche: you are welcome
sanic_BOOM: pretty sure G13 negates this threat
Gkko: nice threat!
Jihadist: read up on pro systems, its really intense.
DenisWeber: Martin 3141 aga gains a lucky win? Nö way
Stormwolf: are R7 and Q8 proper ko threats?
]
;W[fe]C[BHydden: it's byo yomi anything can happen 
sanic_BOOM: wait nvm
]
;B[kh]C[Here We Go: This is madness
sanic_BOOM: T3 is big enough, surely
S_Alexander: i really wanna hear what Pavol was thinking here
sanic_BOOM: "I need a better mouse"
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: ???????. From move 229: L12 F15 D16 
sanic_BOOM: That's what he was thinking
TemitopeAjileye: T8 is a threat
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Wth white.
TemitopeAjileye: for B
]
;W[bj]C[Gkko: white doesn't win the semeai
Gkko: if white ignored the threat
jmdingess: If white doesnt play F15 and lets it turn into the other ko then it becomes a large risk to white
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Yes he does
Recursion: I don't think there's a way for white to lose
Recursion: Unless another misclick
jmdingess: here there is no risk for white losing the ko
TemitopeAjileye: I'm afraid so
aoirinban: pls stop saying i dont think theres a way for x to lose
Animiral: b can enlarge the ko at m14
]
;B[bk]C[jmdingess: white would not trade this ko for the other
]
;W[lh]C[aoirinban: i feel like ppl have said that 5 times this game
aoirinban: and obviously its not true
TemitopeAjileye: R15 also worth points
Recursion: @aoirinban it's the first time we see a misclick at this level
Gkko: it makes them feel smart to repeat leela's conclusions
probicsek: w has further dangers if b wins the ko
jakubiszon: if black played m12 shoudln't white answer somewhere near h14 ?
clywzach: what was the misclick?
martin3141: are we sure it was a missclick?
jmdingess: Someone asked about R7 as a threat - doesn't work well enough. From move 234: R7 L12 Q8 Q5 T6 L2 
probicsek: so only very large threats work now
Reveron: -.-
]
;B[qe]C[Here We Go: Aye, what was misclick?
probicsek: huh
Animiral: ouch
kannikka: what??
sanic_BOOM: white cud go for the peace-of-mind option
Gkko: N12
sanic_BOOM: and just take the ko
explorebaduk: I don't think anything of that was missclick, they did clear rules about that. 
sanic_BOOM: but if not, he still has C6 and T3
martin3141: people assume n12 was a missclick
S_Alexander: people just refuse to believe that was a mistake so call it misclick 
kannikka: white just connects, what does black do?
dead_robot: cry
]
;W[re]
;B[kh]C[clywzach: andy was saying making bamboo instead of ko is still big loss for black
probicsek: huhu :)
]
;W[kn]C[kannikka: why did white asnwer??
Kamelotusky: :O
sanic_BOOM: this one big af
Stormwolf: i curse black for causing this ko
trohde: ?. From move 238: M12 K6 L4 
S_Alexander: white has other ko threats no reason to concede anything?
Animiral: I think b should m14, what do you guys think
Kretzsche: i think connect first ^^
jmdingess: trohde I think this is a lil biger. From move 238: M12 K6 L4 J9 
probicsek: m4 lack further threats
probicsek: m14
S_Alexander: gg?
aoirinban: after m14 w connect n16 and win semeai
aoirinban: lose some points though
Beret: I think Andy said making the bamboo joint was inconsistent with the previous moves
jmdingess: 68. From move 238: M12 K6 J9 L3 
Stormwolf: better be inconsistent than dead
Animiral: ah, aoirinban good point, 
probicsek: yeah, since bamboo would keep the win, while previous moves tried to lose
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: ?. From move 238: M12 K6 M14 J13 N16 J14 M15 J15 J4 
]
;B[lh]C[bigpickle: hahaha
Here We Go: Oft
T0T0R0: :)
trohde: see, that’s why I’m still 8k :-D
]
;W[jn]C[explorebaduk: what
sanic_BOOM: wow
Stormwolf: WOW
kannikka: What is this game  smh
sanic_BOOM: but now M14 is real threat
explorebaduk: it's not
aoirinban: m14 just 3 point sente
sanic_BOOM: nvm
trohde: But hey, Pawel channeled me again 😂
sanic_BOOM: more liberties than black 4 stones on left
kannikka: so black intends to kill the top?
kannikka: somehow
]
;B[lf]C[NeonLights: cheat me some wins
]
;W[md]C[TemitopeAjileye: Palko the entertainer!
Animiral: first k11 & l10
Sexy Toaster: wow
Uberdude: did e16 hurt self?
jakubiszon: h14 any good?
explorebaduk: gg
Beret: Pavol wants all his team-mates to have a game
Kountch: The end?
jakubiszon: seki around g16?
aoirinban: i dont think so uberdude
smog山人: on
jmdingess: jakub not enough liberties
smog山人: I just noticed,, analysis and conditional moves enabled
]
;B[hf]C[smog山人: ini last game it was disabled :O
NeonLights: H14 
FahadAhmed: very much so
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 69. From move 243: M15 K11 J11 L10 G13 F14 J14 J13 H15 H11 G15 K11 J15 
bigpickle: can black kill?
Stormwolf: why not push M15?
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Something like this
NeonLights: the crowd chanes underwear
Uberdude: if m15 then white h14 takes libs fast
]
;W[pd]C[Carlos Danker: wat
TemitopeAjileye: ?
GOkyle: ???
explorebaduk: N12 will be something he will regret a lot 
aoirinban: sente before living
]
;B[oe]C[Beret: q16 is timesuji
aoirinban: no, its just good timing
Carlos Danker: loss of liberty?
Stormwolf: is black losing everything he had? Kinda like any of my game?
]
;W[le]C[Gkko: he's going to live
Animiral: q16 loses the liberty
jmdingess: M15 makes that top group live so loss of lib doesnt matter
Gkko: who cares about the lib
kannikka: so black just lost?
Here We Go: Looks like it
Stormwolf: i'm leaving the stadium
jmdingess: F18 G15 miai for eyes, no seki
jakubiszon: q12, r10?
jmdingess: Black needs J9
TemitopeAjileye: B can seki, come on!
aoirinban: b conna capture k10 stones
Animiral: Stormwolf: riot riot
]
;B[ji]C[Animiral: :P
Recursion: Now nobody is ever going to resign
Recursion: K11???
aoirinban: good, ppl should resign less
Stormwolf: remember the good old day? When black was having a sure victory?
Recursion: Does it work?
Gkko: it's kind of a trick move
NeonLights: looks like I picked the wrong day to quit drinking
Gkko: white loses if he takes
ممكن: eric could lose on time
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 70. From move 247: G13 F14 J13 J14 H15 H11 G15 G11 J15 J11 
jmdingess: 71. From move 247: F14 G13 J13 J14 G15 J11 H15 H11 J15 
]
;W[ff]C[probicsek: b had sure win 2 times, throw away both
]
;B[gg]C[Here We Go: This game is beyond over my head
Gkko: none of it was sure
NeonLights: why didn't black choose Leela line.
Kretzsche: he doesnt get to see it
probicsek: no need to choose leela line
probicsek: in 2nd case
probicsek: just play simply
martin3141: because he is human
Neosilver: at least b is forcing white to capture the stones 
GlennMartenRobin: f
]
;W[if]C[bigpickle: Leela cheated on black with another ai, never trust her
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: You call it a trick move. It's the proper move to start the race and reduce white 
]
;B[ig]C[probicsek: it needed a huge effort to lose from that point
jmdingess: this turned out well for black
]
;W[ie]
;B[ii]C[aoirinban: is anyone counting
Kretzsche: except the white group bottom escaped
jmdingess: oh, right
Recursion: :((((((((((((((((((((((((
]
;W[ge]C[jmdingess: rip
Stormwolf: all i have left is my eyes to cry
probicsek: b lost more than saved from the ko, plus the botoom
Recursion: F
Gkko: still close
NeonLights: MAKE IT STOP
]
;B[ip]C[kannikka: ripperino pepperino
dead_robot: is it half point game now?
S_Alexander: H11 is a free point?
Kretzsche: its a ko threat
tam1998: but h11 might as well be a ko threat
Gkko: it's not going to be perfect endgame anyway
]
;W[pk]C[Uberdude: w has to capture anyway if b f18
martin3141: w has to capture anyway, period.
]
;B[sl]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 打劫!. From move 257: T9 T6 T7 
tam1998: b will start ko with t6 i believe
Animiral: I count b 58, w 54+komi = 60.5
]
;W[rk]C[BHydden: no ko for you ll
sanic_BOOM: w0t
tam1998: desperado move
aoirinban: ?
aoirinban: oh
aoirinban: no loss
tam1998: oh he got it for free
Stormwolf: i really thought that the right side would be much reduced, but B didn't manage
didiusjulianus: Surma was robbed
sanic_BOOM: oh order
]
;B[fr]C[Darkkkk: K3 should be at q9 i think
S_Alexander: Surma is a hero but looks like it's all on Ilya to save.
aoirinban: go america
]
;W[cn]C[tam1998: isn't there artem as well?
]
;B[bm]C[Kretzsche: not if ilya wins ;)
Jihadist: people gonna be so salty if AGA WINS
anton007: It's funny if w will win game like this after win by time against Surma
aoirinban: U S A
S_Alexander: 100%, I know I'll be salty.
aoirinban: U S A
Gkko: win will be deserved whoever wins tbh
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: #JusticeforSurma#youlefties
]
;W[fb]C[NeonLights: Marx was right
derWitt: sorry just came in, what match is this?
tam1998: yeah i think its really not too healthy, because if AGA wins there's always the 'did you really win against surma'-factor....
BHydden: no politics pls
derWitt: sorry, 
]
;B[es]
;W[ds]
;B[fs]C[maxmakinen8: is J2 bigger than answering at the top?
derWitt: what match is this?
]
;W[dr]C[G-O: @derWitt Transatlantic game Eric Liu vs Pavol
Animiral: Europe vs USA and no politics? tough order ^^
Sexy Toaster: Marx was a nerd
gemm: https://transatlanticgo.org/ DerWitt
Uberdude: i feel bad for ryan because he cannot win this match without whatifs
Kretzsche: palko is pavol if oyu didnt figure that out
trohde: I LOVE Groucho!
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: "No politics" bud doesn't get a joke.
derWitt: ty
]
;B[ph]
;W[qh]C[FahadAhmed: when is the next transatlantic game?
aoirinban: they're every sunday same time
S_Alexander: well, ryan won't have to worry if eric can continue like that
Animiral: transatlanticgo.org 30.6.
Here We Go: 3 and a half hours later
derWitt: didn't know pavol is pro already, since when?
]
;B[da]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: 2017
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I think
Uberdude: earlier
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: After llya?
Uberdude: he was first
derWitt: did he go to korea to study?
Cezary: wasnt L2 bigger than d19 ?
tam1998: top is 6 points move. j2 is 7 i think
anton007: Since 2014,lol
explo: before
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Oooh
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I thought Ilya was first lool
]
;W[sc]C[NeonLights: libraries gave us power
Animiral: isn't t16 bigger?
Animiral: yeah this
anton007: Ilya didn't participate in the 1st pro qualification
]
;B[sb]C[sanic_BOOM: Uniform
sanic_BOOM: Sierra
sanic_BOOM: Alpha
]
;W[sd]C[aoirinban: U S A
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: So... unofficially the first European pro
tymak: Actually Iliya was 4th (3rd was surma)
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Damn
Kretzsche: aoirinban who is thi susa you keep shouting about?
sanic_BOOM: And the first was the great Hero King Marth
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Thought my boy was stronger than that back then
]
;B[kr]C[NeonLights: Manfred Wimmer was the first
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: I prefer the Ike
sanic_BOOM: may the gods bless lucina
]
;W[ks]
;B[kq]
;W[rb]
;B[qb]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: All these pointles... cowards
Kretzsche: ko lets go
Uberdude: was this kiai making a bad move?
]
;W[sa]
;B[qm]
;W[po]
;B[sn]C[Rasgueo: play threat before starting the ko?
anton007: There is no ko
]
;W[pl]C[aoirinban: why not p9
Beret: 1 pt gote? what am I missing?
Beret: I mean r7
aoirinban: r7 sente
Here We Go: You can't see the horizon from the trenches
]
;B[ir]C[Beret: okay I see
Animiral: I think w is ahead by 2 points or so
S_Alexander: very close, right?
]
;W[js]C[Neosilver: h11 is sente right?
Cezary: andy just said b+1.5
Neosilver: worth a point
Animiral: you better trust Andy on this ^^
S_Alexander: he said he never plays endgame though
gasana: what are the rules? Japanes 6,5?
]
;B[pc]C[Here We Go: Aye
sanic_BOOM: this game is so close
AdamR: yes, Japanese 6,5
Cezary: yes, 6.5
sanic_BOOM: it'll come down to komi
gasana: thx
]
;W[rf]C[dead_robot: it will come down to half point
]
;B[ep]C[NeonLights: there is no Japanese 6,5 ruleset
izmir: any leela % ?
]
;W[mn]C[S_Alexander: SE says black wins.
Sexy Toaster: 7.5
Here We Go: Says 6.5 in game info
Here We Go: #newControversey
Sexy Toaster: Andy just said 7.5
Riley Reid: 346 people watching? 
maxmakinen8: official rules are japanese rules 6.5 komi
Animiral: White 27 + 14 + 14 = 55, Black 32 + 4 + 16 + 10 = 60
]
;B[hi]C[maxmakinen8: says on the website
]
;W[he]C[Riley Reid: is this a record? 
]
;B[jl]C[S_Alexander: no he didn't ST
G-O: its 6.5
Neosilver: SE is giving points to black that aren't his, alexander
Kountch: SE thinks T19 dead...
]
;W[nl]C[starduck4: yeah SE looks very wrong
]
;B[nm]C[xhu98: The rules are written in this game info as well
aoirinban: im missing something, i count b+5
Neosilver: lol now SE thinks the five black stones on the side are dead
]
;W[ok]
;B[nl]C[GOkyle: aorinban: did you count komi?
S_Alexander: whatever works as long as black wins
aoirinban: yes lol
]
;W[dm]
;B[cl]C[izmir: 0.5 point game
derWitt: do they play online? 
Stormwolf: what are the biggest remaining moves?
Kretzsche: h5
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: F19, j1, o1 t6
aoirinban: o4
]
;W[np]C[gasana: was K8 really biggest
izmir: who wins T7 Ko, wins the game :D
gasana: ?
Stormwolf: mistake, isn't it?
Animiral: o4 is not the biggest move for sure
aoirinban: o4 is biggest
Animiral: I don't believe it :>
]
;B[oq]C[izmir: but m5 sente?
aoirinban: look, its 1 point sente
derWitt: well if a 1p says so you better try to see why
Animiral: oOO it was big
NeonLights: nearly 1:00 in Slovakia
]
;W[ns]C[izmir: what
AdamR: huh? its midnight in SK
Uberdude: not 1am, midnight
]
;B[os]C[izmir: why not m5 first
Animiral: or o10
aoirinban: m5 is a ko threat
aoirinban: w should play it now
S_Alexander: 900 viewers on twitch lol
Neosilver: what does m5 accomplish?
]
;W[lo]C[aoirinban: b may play it now
Neosilver: oh
aoirinban: as reverse sente
Neosilver: for w
]
;B[kp]C[izmir: finally
aoirinban: n10 h5 miai
]
;W[fa]C[aoirinban: yup, f19
]
;B[is]C[anton007: Why b played 1.5 points move instead of 2 points moves?
]
;W[ls]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: N10 is bigger
aoirinban: f19 same as n10
]
;B[nj]C[aoirinban: both 2 point
izmir: n10 is 2 points
anton007: p1 is 1/5
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: N10 is 3
Neosilver: mfw endgame math
aoirinban: n10 is not 3
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It is
izmir: not :)
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: H5 is 2, n10 is 3
martin3141: looks like 2
]
;W[oj]C[aoirinban: ???
]
;B[ea]C[段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Now it's 2
Neosilver: engame math @_@
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: H5 didn't have a follow up
Animiral: t9 and done
aoirinban: neither did n10
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: It was only worth 2
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: N10 had o10
]
;W[mj]C[Stormwolf: wasn't E19 only one point?
]
;B[ho]C[aoirinban: thats not a follow up
aoirinban: thats a seperate move
段杀手 - 唐杰 围棋Pro: Yes it is
]
;W[sk]C[Cezary: now i count w+
TemitopeAjileye: is komi 7.5?
aoirinban: hello??
jmdingess: E19 and P10 were miai. H5 and N10 were miai
OndraKruml: its half point?
martin3141: o10 was possible even without n10
jmdingess: he is playing miai before the ko to remove the ko threats
]
;B[dd]C[Here We Go: 6.5 apparently
Cezary: 0.5 or 1.5 for white depending on the ko
Stormwolf: but wasn't H5 2 points? As well as N10?
]
;W[ms]C[jmdingess: exactly storm, they were miai
aoirinban: e19 reverse sente 1 point
aoirinban: not same as 1 point
]
;B[sp]
;W[sm]C[NeonLights: [object Object\]
]
;B[do]C[jmdingess: oh you're right aoir
BoredMechE: g11
jmdingess: Q10 was 1 point reverse sente and I was mistaking it for P10
Kretzsche: are they playing chinese rules?
Here We Go: Japanese
]
;W[ik]C[Kretzsche: why?
]
;B[gi]
;W[sl]C[Animiral: W+0.5, calling it now
anton007: c2?
]
;B[cr]C[Jihadist: w+salt
sanic_BOOM: oh no...C2?
sanic_BOOM: and he played it
derWitt: omg
aoirinban: !
Neosilver: oh no
izmir: wowowowwow
Animiral: OMG OMG what is this
martin3141: oh yes
Here We Go: What?
Stormwolf: is there potential there?
etnoh: Hahaha
S_Alexander: nothing there
martin3141: Here we go
aoirinban: lol
Recursion: lol
izmir: seki?
aoirinban: gg
starduck4: gg
izmir: is this SEKİ?
dead_robot: wow
キツネ囲碁: this move doesn't work
vegmandu: No.
jmdingess: 72. From move 321: B2 C3 C1 D3 B1 C4 B3 D4 
Rasgueo: His plan from the beginning
]
;W[dq]C[vegmandu: w 2 eyes
sanic_BOOM: phew he played the Andy move
vegmandu: hmm
Jihadist: b3 maybe?
Stormwolf: but it's true that W didn't answer B's D5
Cezary: C3
clywzach: w b1 if b b3
vegmandu: interesting
]
;B[qa]C[aoirinban: mm
]
;W[sb]C[Here We Go: Aw xD
]
;B[ra]
;W[nn]C[izmir: :(
didiusjulianus: :(
derWitt: just to scare people
vegmandu: yeah i just got here c3 would be nuts
]
;B[]
;W[]C[AlphaReader: thanks
starduck4: ooof
aoirinban: U S A
Karlathian: gg
aoirinban: U S A
Animiral: damn I missed a point
derWitt: damn what a game
JeansebL: T_T
Gkko: Very nice game
clywzach: wow
didiusjulianus: Damn
sanic_BOOM: ERIC DID IT
PVTJakE: GG ERIC 
S_Alexander: 1.5
Animiral: GG
clywzach: gg
Here We Go: Gg
Animiral: congratulations Eric!
mpizzzle: gg
didiusjulianus: Surma still won
smog山人: gg :)
bigpickle: wp
Here We Go: Nice one, some game
Zenbeggar: I like the Surma comment
BHydden: well played both, GG Eric AlphaReader 
S_Alexander: gg
NeonLights: : Sur;q
Recursion: What os the Surma comment?
shinuito: gg well played :)
anoek: Great game you two!
Zenbeggar: That will always leave an aftertaster
trohde: Congrats to @AlphaReader, and thanks both and everybody involved!
fssong: [object Object\]
Here We Go: Thanks to the players and everyone involved to make the game happen, well done <3
derWitt: oh haylee is here too
Schneeeeule: Great
komi: [object Object\]
Zenbeggar: Oh the win rate graph looks funny
BHydden: it usually goes back over itself afterwwards and smoothes out
BHydden: there are two reviews running simultaneously, once they've both finished the graph will smooth out
Recursion: @BHydden wouldn't analyzing from the last move (like lichess does) make the analysis more reliable?
Beret: Great game regardless of the result
herbie: =o
S_Alexander: for some reason the page became so glitchy for me
S_Alexander: i blame reviews 
BHydden: @Recursion to my understanding it works out to be the same no matter where it starts from, but it's a new feature and we're still experimenting with finding the most stable implementation on the back end
bigpickle: @BHydden what hardware do you run it on?
BHydden: @bigpickle Google Cloud Platform
bigpickle:   thanks
BHydden: what specific hardware they use, I couldn't tell you
isor: [object Object\]
BadAtBaduk: [object Object\]
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