(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[7.00]TM[1800]OT[10/300 Canadian]
PW[sume]PB[drakula]WR[7d]DT[2013-06-03]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[drakula [?\]: have a nice game
]RE[B+4.00]
;B[pd]BL[1792.347]C[sume [-\]: you too
]
;W[dd]WL[1785.916]
;B[dq]BL[1785.615]
;W[do]WL[1777.564]
;B[cm]BL[1720.717]
;W[cq]WL[1766.775]
;B[gq]BL[1698.505]
;W[dp]WL[1746.819]
;B[dr]BL[1685.587]
;W[bo]WL[1731.426]
;B[cr]BL[1609.18]
;W[ck]WL[1715.228]
;B[qp]BL[1602.29]
;W[oq]WL[1708.983]
;B[lp]BL[1541.382]
;W[qq]WL[1683.024]
;B[rq]BL[1535.533]
;W[pp]WL[1660.237]
;B[qo]BL[1523.919]
;W[qr]WL[1638.857]
;B[ql]BL[1490.136]
;W[nc]WL[1618.865]
;B[pf]BL[1436.687]
;W[pb]WL[1604.438]
;B[qc]BL[1411.209]
;W[kc]WL[1557.667]
;B[cc]BL[1355.265]C[hobajons [-\]: oh shit
hobajons [-\]: gogogogog sume
]
;W[cd]WL[1494.804]
;B[dc]BL[1351.6]
;W[ec]WL[1493.697]
;B[eb]BL[1349.289]
;W[fb]WL[1492.734]C[Mef [-\]: please watch the language
]
;B[fc]BL[1298.12]
;W[ed]WL[1487.317]
;B[gb]BL[1296.123]
;W[db]WL[1486.405]
;B[fa]BL[1294.932]
;W[cb]WL[1485.841]C[hobajons [-\]: sorry
hobajons [-\]: i get excited when strong players play
]
;B[ld]BL[1246.441]C[hobajons [-\]: ;D
Ritm [2k\]: how strong are they?
jytsao [-\]: well
manofearth [?\]: hey, how youthful do these participants have 2b
jytsao [-\]: dracula is the most powerful vampire ever
]
;W[lc]WL[1448.646]
;B[nd]BL[1243.162]
;W[md]WL[1430.5]C[hobajons [-\]: sume is 7d
kmr [1d\]: black is european 6d
DonValley [4d?\]: sume (american) 7d, drakula (european) 6d
jytsao [-\]: but 5th round, so they gotta be strong
]
;B[me]BL[1238.393]C[hobajons [-\]: no
]
;W[mc]WL[1417.466]C[hobajons [-\]: it doesnt depend on skill lv
Ritm [2k\]: thanks
hobajons [-\]: it just happened to be that they play in the 5th round thats all
hobajons [-\]: i thin
hobajons [-\]: think*
kmr [1d\]: unless its knockout or round robin a
DonValley [4d?\]: not many choices for black here
kmr [1d\]: you are probably right
DonValley [4d?\]: its a team match, North America is currently leading Europe 8-1
DonValley [4d?\]: this is the last game
hkkyeen [?\]: we can do better than last year!
kmr [1d\]: j17?
momNdead: Drakula must be from eastern europe
kmr [1d\]: yeah Poland exactly
kmr [1d\]: so i would say more central lol :D
dabei [1d\]: ueropeon 6d is exactly 7d in kgs
odnihs [-\]: yea this isn't a final round or anything, just the last match in a series of matches :)
hungt1 [3k\]: how old is sume?
hungt1 [3k\]: 6?
odnihs [-\]: yes
hungt1 [3k\]: genius
kirbywarp [?\]: wat
DonValley [4d?\]: XD a tad older than 6
dabei [1d\]: ww 6 years old kgs 7d
odnihs [-\]: just a tad
sume [7d?\]: sry d/c
odnihs [-\]: ^^
DonValley [4d?\]: more like 16
odnihs [-\]: i thought he was 15
odnihs [-\]: no wait he might be 16 now
]
;B[ej]BL[789.988]C[hungt1 [3k\]: chinese or korean?
dabei [1d\]: then kghin is better than him a bit
Hold [4d\]: he is really small for 16
manofearth [?\]: the point is, he's not 8 or9
odnihs [-\]: i think that picture was from when he was 10 or 11
hungt1 [3k\]: i hope he is not more fat without offence ok
kmr [1d\]: e10 shows Drakula has no fear
FFFDSA: is b strong?
dabei [1d\]: kghin is 15 and 6 months as kgs strong 8d
hungt1 [3k\]: but.. is sum = sume or ?
dabei [1d\]: maybe 9d
]
;W[ek]WL[1319.334]C[Theo2015 [3k\]: sume is actually a kid?
hungt1 [3k\]: ppl said 16
hungt1 [3k\]: y
gobugobu [6d\]: d9 looks normal, but damages c7 
FFFDSA: b is not "fearless" he just tries to incorporate his stones wisely
Theo2015 [3k\]: always thought his pic was his kid
Theo2015 [3k\]: lol
kmr [1d\]: "sum" is Robert Jasiek, no connections to Sume i think :D
]
;B[fk]BL[732.241]C[killler8 [7d\]: nah sume is 16
Hold [4d\]: you can tell they are young when they mispell dracula
]
;W[el]WL[1272.99]C[Theo2015 [3k\]: could be a foreign spelling
F525 [1k\]: It's obviously spelled dorakyura.
F525 [1k\]: l2spell
]
;B[cj]BL[647.439]C[romkat [4k?\]: Duh-rack-you-la.
]
;W[fj]WL[1216.393]
;B[ei]BL[635.154]C[anzen [3k\]: omg sume is playing a game ;o
hungt1 [3k\]: sume korean?
]
;W[fi]WL[1082.421]C[iwin [2k\]: sume american
hungt1 [3k\]: really?
]
;B[bk]BL[607.091]C[xD [2k\]: so how good looking are the players?
xDragon [?\]: why would he be playing in america vs europe competition?
gobugobu [6d\]: b9 looks ok, but then W d10 d11 d9 b11 b8 - but this looks bad for W
manofearth [?\]: but  what is the significance of "sume" handle.  can we infer anything?. afterall, he is an  American GO Prince 
hungt1 [3k\]: but he looks like asian
]
;W[dk]WL[1019.174]C[iwin [2k\]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWynJkN5HbQ
hungt1 [3k\]: ty iwin
manofearth [?\]: so do most of our strong players. from whence r u,  hungt1?
iwin [2k\]: relevant np
York [5d\]: i thought he s a asian american
gobugobu [6d\]: I once played on the Tokyo team against - Beijing and I am a caucasian.
killler8 [7d\]: thats cool
DonValley [4d?\]: well said i win ^^
]
;B[bi]BL[522.041]C[manofearth [?\]: cool and, actually, surprising
]
;W[eh]WL[989.071]C[hungt1 [3k\]: iwin, cool vid lol
killler8 [7d\]: i wish i had the client for kgs, but my comp is so bad i cant even get it :(
]
;B[dh]BL[434.455]C[killler8 [7d\]: so i cant click on those links
xD [2k\]: ctrl + click
killler8 [7d\]: ya i tried but i cant
xD [2k\]: im not on a client
killler8 [7d\]: real?
xD [2k\]: yes
killler8 [7d\]: my comp must be wack then
]
;W[dg]WL[932.646]
;B[ch]BL[391.862]C[killler8 [7d\]: i see
kadenz: tenuki ?
xD [2k\]: I like black's position
ricedragon [1d\]: i don't think you need client to click on links, just update java?
killler8 [7d\]: my comp just blocked the pop ups
xD [2k\]: ah
killler8 [7d\]: ya
killler8 [7d\]: ty
killler8 [7d\]: this is pretty bad for w :(
hungt1 [3k\]: killer are you from korea?
]
;W[bl]WL[858.375]C[killler8 [7d\]: nah
killler8 [7d\]: im a haffie
manofearth [?\]: i ust wonder how w hopes 2win this
killler8 [7d\]: half chinese half american
xD [2k\]: white must attack the ponuki on the top
kadenz: what is drakula rank ?
xD [2k\]: he is building thickness now
Mef [-\]: EGF 6d
ricedragon [1d\]: half god/half teemo
Nemesis [6d?\]: i think w lead
killler8 [7d\]: lol
manofearth [?\]: live everywhere,somehow
killler8 [7d\]: how'd u know?
x0000 [-\]: c8 
hungt1 [3k\]: wow killer8, nemesis, drakula here 0o
killler8 [7d\]: lol
killler8 [7d\]: its a kill party!
killler8 [7d\]: ;D
hungt1 [3k\]: ;D
]
;B[al]BL[291.986]
;W[am]WL[841.829]C[iwin [2k\]: this looks painful
KBAC [2d\]: its a fake party
manofearth [?\]: i suppose  f17  can be harassed
]
;B[ak]BL[254.098]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: b has too much and about to gain more
killler8 [7d\]: its not too bad for w
killler8 [7d\]: actually
xD [2k\]: well the right side has not been solidified, and white can easily jump under m4
hungt1 [3k\]: e13 is much for b
hungt1 [3k\]: =/
kadenz: attacking b this looks gote
]
;W[bm]WL[787.592]C[manofearth [?\]: wait a minute, y r we taking  opinion of anyone named nemesis seriously
kcharris12 [1d\]: n3 really big
hungt1 [3k\]: for sure
gobugobu [6d\]: It seems to me that W has pretty much lost
gobugobu [6d\]: I want B to play n3 
odnihs [-\]: teemo i have found youuu
]
;B[bf]BL[217.182]C[hungt1 [3k\]: n3 feels strange
hungt1 [3k\]: why not m2?
gobugobu [6d\]: You mean for W
gobugobu [6d\]: But I mean for B
killler8 [7d\]: w wouldnt play that
gobugobu [6d\]: w  would play q5 q6 p6 q7 j3 
kadenz: w must eat ?
xD [2k\]: b14 is sente right?
killler8 [7d\]: ya
hungt1 [3k\]: hi xD
xD [2k\]: hi
killler8 [7d\]: what gobugobu said
]
;W[be]WL[705.459]C[Coloratura [1k\]: h17
killler8 [7d\]: if w doesnt get sente
killler8 [7d\]: then he is in big trouble
xD [2k\]: e13 or tenuki?
hungt1 [3k\]: looks like w just need to play around q10 to win?
kcharris12 [1d\]: tenuki
kadenz: tenuki seems appealing
xD [2k\]: n3 is large
hungt1 [3k\]: nono
hungt1 [3k\]: i prefer p8 :)
hungt1 [3k\]: ???
romkat [4k?\]: bn10?
hungt1 [3k\]: what was that
kcharris12 [1d\]: p8 looks too close
xD [2k\]: p8 is pretty slow
kadenz: p8 passive ?
xD [2k\]: it doesnt do anything
hungt1 [3k\]: m15 seems not bad too
Coloratura [1k\]: J17
]
;B[fh]BL[91.29]C[xD [2k\]: hmm
kcharris12 [1d\]: ohh
]
;W[eg]WL[690.38]
;B[np]BL[88.288]
;W[po]WL[667.201]
;B[pn]BL[84.971]C[xD [2k\]: what is the best followup move for black near f11?
]
;W[on]WL[665.279]
;B[pm]BL[82.525]C[ghjj: w no vhance
hungt1 [3k\]: of course f13
xD [2k\]: i believe that ladder is broken though
kadenz: of course ??
momNdead: g12?
xD [2k\]: g9 or g12 seem more reasonable
kcharris12 [1d\]: apart from w potentially losing f11 stones b could g11 and creat a wall
jsnd [4k\]: ladder good for b
]
;W[nq]WL[574.951]C[hungt1 [3k\]: this is an easy game for b
xD [2k\]: but if black ladders in either direction he will end up in atari
]
;B[mq]BL[42.819]C[jsnd [4k\]: no i mean f13 sets up a good ladder for b
xD [2k\]: no
xD [2k\]: f13 f14 
hungt1 [3k\]: f13 is good jsnd
]
;W[rr]WL[549.313]C[kadenz: u might loose a won game, nothing easy against worthy opponent
hobajons [-\]: b is playing well
kcharris12 [1d\]: g12 sets up nice ladder for b
]
;B[gk]BL[287.015]OB[9]C[jsnd [4k\]: then cut at e14 right xD?
hungt1 [3k\]: time for finish that game
]
;W[gh]WL[528.964]C[hungt1 [3k\]: and play a move like in n8
BenSenTen [3k\]: w is big
xD [2k\]: jsnd, no
hungt1 [3k\]: easy to fix double moyo with g6
hungt1 [3k\]: b easy victory
kcharris12 [1d\]: b is thin though
kadenz: going for ponnuki extension with ladder breaker then o8 or sth like that ?
]
;B[go]BL[206.178]OB[8]C[jspoon [3k\]: g6 not very tight
BenSenTen [3k\]: g9 is lonely
hungt1 [3k\]: kind of like that kadenz
hungt1 [3k\]: now w must make magic
hungt1 [3k\]: g7 is a must
kcharris12 [1d\]: g8 feels like better position
]
;W[qh]WL[476.333]C[jsnd [4k\]: xD why not? that cut works for b
xD [2k\]: define "works"
]
;B[pi]BL[185.247]OB[7]C[jsnd [4k\]: connects b into middle
jsnd [4k\]: captures f10 or e12
FFFDSA: it's like chatting with cartman
jsnd [4k\]: but maybe thats not important
kadenz: isnt r12 too deep ?
hungt1 [3k\]: hahahahaha
kcharris12 [1d\]: r12 is too deep
]
;W[ph]WL[435.192]C[momNdead: yeah i want cheesey poofs!!!
hungt1 [3k\]: b can easily play r11
]
;B[oi]BL[158.755]OB[6]C[xD [2k\]: jsnd, capturing e13 is small compared to the amount of influence white would gain into the middle
hungt1 [3k\]: hmm he wants w s10
kcharris12 [1d\]: w doesn't have a definite way to live
hobajons [-\]: hm
iwin [2k\]: this is tough
]
;W[oh]WL[405.211]C[hobajons [-\]: i bet he lives
]
;B[ni]BL[149.654]OB[5]C[hobajons [-\]: r 11 then like s14
hungt1 [3k\]: yup, but bottom getting bigger
xD [2k\]: i like big bottoms
xD [2k\]: big black bottoms
hungt1 [3k\]: me too
kadenz: i dont like to push inside ennemy territory without some help
jsnd [4k\]: i see good point
]
;W[nh]WL[364.144]C[sixrusses [5k\]: ask a freind kadenz.....
jsnd [4k\]: w doesnt really need those stones
]
;B[mh]BL[141.673]OB[4]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: seems b doesn't want to risk killing w
sixrusses [5k\]: frined*
iwin [2k\]: friend*
sixrusses [5k\]: friend*
DangoMango [2k\]: how strong is b
]
;W[mg]WL[354.602]C[hungt1 [3k\]: fwend
xD [2k\]: if black gets o6, white will be very sad
kadenz: im help from stones on the board
hungt1 [3k\]: man
]
;B[ng]BL[124.333]OB[3]C[hungt1 [3k\]: this is getting toast for w
twoody [4k\]: o6 is huge for b seems
]
;W[mi]WL[333.301]
;B[lh]BL[121.322]OB[2]C[Theo2015 [3k\]: this seemse
xD [2k\]: but this is more urget
Theo2015 [3k\]: hopeless
kcharris12 [1d\]: o5 p5 o7
kadenz: i dont see where w is going with that 
xD [2k\]: no... o6 o5 n5 
jsnd [4k\]: w can live locally but is that enough
]
;W[qf]WL[270.552]C[hungt1 [3k\]: poor w
]
;B[qe]BL[114.957]OB[1]C[DonValley [4d?\]: w should live here
BenSenTen [3k\]: what is w trying to do?
hungt1 [3k\]: live
hobajons [-\]: s13
hobajons [-\]: jk
kadenz: might be gote though
hungt1 [3k\]: lol hobajons
kcharris12 [1d\]: o6 05 n5 p4 gives w ko
hungt1 [3k\]: w is trying to live, then live desperately in bottom or mid
hungt1 [3k\]: but probabily easy killing
]
;W[qi]WL[182.293]C[DonValley [4d?\]: if w r11, can b s9?
DonValley [4d?\]: no nvm
BenSenTen [3k\]: he is too big to be put in this small box
hungt1 [3k\]: u calling sume is big ?
hungt1 [3k\]: :p
]
;B[rk]BL[300]OB[10]C[iwin [2k\]: ooh
hungt1 [3k\]: this situation is really badddddd
hobajons [-\]: good move
DonValley [4d?\]: lol
hungt1 [3k\]: lol
DonValley [4d?\]: called it
hungt1 [3k\]: this move
BenSenTen [3k\]: b wants to kill
iwin [2k\]: no kiddin
hobajons [-\]: b cant kill
hungt1 [3k\]: this move is so weird
hungt1 [3k\]: but cool
BenSenTen [3k\]: why, b is vegetarian?
hungt1 [3k\]: b likes fresh meat
hobajons [-\]: w will s10
hobajons [-\]: probs
hungt1 [3k\]: this is already dead
hungt1 [3k\]: :)
hobajons [-\]: or connect first 
hungt1 [3k\]: q10 is the only move on the universe
kadenz: shuko might disagree
jsnd [4k\]: maybe just split the difference and r10
kcharris12 [1d\]: o10
jsnd [4k\]: i usually do that when i cant decide
BenSenTen [3k\]: maybe r10
hungt1 [3k\]: good idea jsnd
hungt1 [3k\]: xD
]
;W[of]WL[243.053]OW[9]C[hungt1 [3k\]: some ppl like to play r9
jsnd [4k\]: ha i just read out p14 in a clone 
jsnd [4k\]: for like 5 mins
jsnd [4k\]: i came up with it is bad 
BenSenTen [3k\]: r9 is ....P
]
;B[nf]BL[265.685]OB[9]
;W[oe]WL[230.708]OW[8]
;B[og]BL[251.764]OB[8]C[hungt1 [3k\]: anyway q10 is easy liofe
hungt1 [3k\]: easy life*
]
;W[pg]WL[222.48]OW[7]
;B[pe]BL[244.855]OB[7]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: s13 not enough?
hobajons [-\]: mb ko
kadenz: so what now ?
hungt1 [3k\]: my move now
kcharris12 [1d\]: s10 in sente lives
DonValley [4d?\]: s10 should work
Poney [1d\]: s10 allows white to play P9
jspoon [3k\]: try to kill korner
hungt1 [3k\]: korner??
BenSenTen [3k\]: no way
jspoon [3k\]: corner
jspoon [3k\]: lol
iwin [2k\]: can't, there's snapback
hungt1 [3k\]: lol, drakula influences you
jspoon [3k\]: s14 first
]
;W[rj]WL[139.167]OW[6]C[sixrusses [5k\]: w wants a ko somehow?
Poney [1d\]: See :)
hungt1 [3k\]: ok 
jsnd [4k\]: if you s14 cant b monkey jump in and its over?
BenSenTen [3k\]: s10 nice
hungt1 [3k\]: s10 is very nice
]
;B[rf]BL[199.955]OB[6]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: not very
Hokke [-\]: p16 isnt so bad
DonValley [4d?\]: black will get hella thick from this
]
;W[pk]WL[120.234]OW[5]C[jspoon [3k\]: 10
gobugobu [6d\]: s14 s13 s15 q9 
Poney [1d\]: And he'll use thickness to kill living groups  ? :p
hungt1 [3k\]: don, you mean b will get clean territory? :)
]
;B[mj]BL[168.737]OB[5]C[DonValley [4d?\]: he should be able to play p5 after this is all done
]
;W[qk]WL[111.867]OW[4]C[RawDog [1d\]: this guy looks to be doin pretty good against sume
gobugobu [6d\]: B has problems now
goforforgo [3k\]: might run away easily now
iwin [2k\]: p5 o5 ?
RawDog [1d\]: an accomplishment in of itself
Hokke [-\]: how old is sume?
hungt1 [3k\]: looks like center will be demolished
BenSenTen [3k\]: 5
DonValley [4d?\]: iwin i meant after black gets thick
hungt1 [3k\]: if b don't make life^^
iwin [2k\]: oh 
]
;B[rm]BL[116.727]OB[4]C[iwin [2k\]: ok
]
;W[sk]WL[100.783]OW[3]
;B[rl]BL[113.92]OB[3]C[hungt1 [3k\]: !!
hungt1 [3k\]: s13 or try to make eye on center?
]
;W[nk]WL[75.709]OW[2]C[hungt1 [3k\]: okey
hungt1 [3k\]: this answered my question
]
;B[ol]BL[89.832]OB[2]C[iwin [2k\]: looks impossible now..
xD [2k\]: im still trying to figure out where things went downhill for black
manofearth [?\]: or both
]
;W[ok]WL[54.717]OW[1]C[wampleek [?\]: i prefer b
]
;B[ll]BL[43.775]OB[1]C[Hokke [-\]: i thought n8. why m8 better?
]
;W[nl]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[nm]BL[300]OB[10]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: i prefer big than be a vampire
RawDog [1d\]: b miss?
RawDog [1d\]: or will b p5 if w p7
BenSenTen [3k\]: w seems dead
]
;W[lk]WL[245.738]OW[9]C[RawDog [1d\]: b group not alive yet either
manofearth [?\]: maybe he's dracula b4 dracula became a vampire
Hokke [-\]: hahaha
iwin [2k\]: w can't cut in sente though right
manofearth [?\]: or the real Count Dracula
iwin [2k\]: so b not endangered
BenSenTen [3k\]: how can a big boy beat a vampire
]
;B[kk]BL[242.309]OB[9]C[sixrusses [5k\]: n7?
kadenz: with garlic
]
;W[ml]WL[181.403]OW[8]
;B[lj]BL[212.924]OB[8]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: big boy scare of garlic too
]
;W[lm]WL[166.633]OW[7]
;B[kl]BL[210.723]OB[7]C[twoody [4k\]: With love, man.
RawDog [1d\]: w o6
RawDog [1d\]: ?
kadenz: p7 :)
]
;W[nn]WL[126.287]OW[6]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: p7
hungt1 [3k\]: i was sleeping
KBAC [2d\]: seems that w has found his way out
hungt1 [3k\]: b still winning/
hungt1 [3k\]: ?
goforforgo [3k\]: why not p7?
]
;B[om]BL[186.757]OB[6]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: only blonde love vampire
]
;W[mm]WL[122.734]OW[5]C[RawDog [1d\]: here we go
]
;B[kn]BL[166.632]OB[5]C[hungt1 [3k\]: hi RawDog
kadenz: p7 was cutting w stones
kcharris12 [1d\]: n5
RawDog [1d\]: hey
RawDog [1d\]: well he can n5 now
goforforgo [3k\]: succeeded
]
;W[km]WL[96.719]OW[4]
;B[jm]BL[163.271]OB[4]C[kadenz: n5 gote
hungt1 [3k\]: i woulda play s13
FFFDSA: cut!
FFFDSA: cut
hungt1 [3k\]: don't cut
]
;W[jn]WL[85.486]OW[3]C[hungt1 [3k\]: or cut
RawDog [1d\]: i like this
FFFDSA: haha :)
]
;B[ko]BL[146.703]OB[3]C[RawDog [1d\]: not willing to settle
hungt1 [3k\]: not way
]
;W[mo]WL[62.759]OW[2]C[Renovate [-\]: what is w trying to do here?
]
;B[mp]BL[142.846]OB[2]C[Renovate [-\]: besides live
]
;W[op]WL[57.736]OW[1]C[hungt1 [3k\]: trying to wait for missclick
RawDog [1d\]: trying to avoid gote
Renovate [-\]: ah
BenSenTen [3k\]: exercise his fingers
hungt1 [3k\]: his computer is by voice
kcharris12 [1d\]: j18 r18
kadenz: b must add a stone on the right ?
RawDog [1d\]: if w had q8 yea i think so
twoody [4k\]: g7?
hungt1 [3k\]: just play K18
RawDog [1d\]: but as it is i dont think it needs move
hungt1 [3k\]: and be free
BenSenTen [3k\]: w doesn't has enough
]
;B[fm]BL[44.202]OB[1]C[kadenz: they're both running outta time
wampleek [?\]: close to me
hungt1 [3k\]: g16 now or never
]
;W[fp]WL[300]OW[10]C[wampleek [?\]: small lead for b
hungt1 [3k\]: small lead?
hungt1 [3k\]: 0o
]
;B[gp]BL[300]OB[10]C[wampleek [?\]: i think <5
hungt1 [3k\]: g16 please
wampleek [?\]: maybe 5
hungt1 [3k\]: do my kyu move
RawDog [1d\]: w does need something of up top
dxxd [3k\]: h17?
RawDog [1d\]: dont think g16 is the move
]
;W[ib]WL[254.791]OW[9]C[RawDog [1d\]: thats seems like it
Renovate [-\]: classic keima
hungt1 [3k\]: 1st line keima
]
;B[hc]BL[273.832]OB[9]C[York [5d\]: the last struggle?
DonValley [4d?\]: d6 can kill?
Renovate [-\]: seems so
iwin [2k\]: :o
wampleek [?\]: oh i didnt count p14 for b
hungt1 [3k\]: the only way for w win this, is pushing b gote eye to make j7 sente for white
iwin [2k\]: d6 looks good
hungt1 [3k\]: but this is just a frankestein plan
wampleek [?\]: so maybe more than 5
]
;W[gd]WL[212.602]OW[8]C[jspoon [3k\]: d6 only kill e8 group
]
;B[ic]BL[266.213]OB[8]
;W[jc]WL[207.115]OW[7]C[kadenz: d6 doesnt kill
hungt1 [3k\]: h18
hungt1 [3k\]: FAst
RawDog [1d\]: hes going to go out first
hungt1 [3k\]: ok so j15
]
;B[ie]BL[221.052]OB[7]C[RawDog [1d\]: id imagine
]
;W[mf]WL[192.691]OW[6]C[hungt1 [3k\]: ur a good dog
]
;B[ne]BL[217.252]OB[6]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: woof
]
;W[le]WL[182.198]OW[5]
;B[od]BL[215.943]OB[5]C[RawDog [1d\]: lol
RawDog [1d\]: i try
]
;W[jf]WL[172.039]OW[4]C[iwin [2k\]: ooh
Poney [1d\]: W is stong
Hokke [-\]: m14
hungt1 [3k\]: well, he is asian at all
York [5d\]: whats wrong with being an asian?
BenSenTen [3k\]: b dying?
]
;B[if]BL[170.812]OB[4]C[Poney [1d\]: W can just take S4 and R18 and win
York [5d\]: not really
twoody [4k\]: The problem with Asians is that they are always too good ^^
]
;W[ig]WL[136.944]OW[3]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: asian being robbed by european hundred years ago
hungt1 [3k\]: whats the secret of the asians?
Hokke [-\]: hard work
Poney [1d\]: This is so off topic T_T
hungt1 [3k\]: how hard hokke?
gfdhff [-\]: big brains and small D
Renovate [-\]: parents + community
hungt1 [3k\]: LOL gf
Hokke [-\]: perseverance.
]
;B[gc]BL[108.441]OB[3]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: asian has much higher iq
Renovate [-\]: and culture
hungt1 [3k\]: but why?
BenSenTen [3k\]: doesn't need hard work at all
hungt1 [3k\]: cus of parents?
hungt1 [3k\]: or genetic?
Renovate [-\]: no
manofearth [?\]: channel vision
Renovate [-\]: Americans value basketball, a lot of parents vlaue bball high so we have best bball players in the world in america. Same thing in Asia just with education
]
;W[kf]WL[61.602]OW[2]C[York [5d\]: i dont think so...
]
;B[fd]BL[82.782]OB[2]C[hungt1 [3k\]: asians study harder?
DonValley [4d?\]: k8 a threat now
York [5d\]: being an asian i could tell you that asian education sucks
]
;W[jl]WL[55.052]OW[1]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: asian value go and doesn't like hardwork
]
;B[im]BL[79.668]OB[1]C[DonValley [4d?\]: called it
iwin [2k\]: lol
kadenz: lol
]
;W[kj]WL[300]OW[10]C[iwin [2k\]: oof
RawDog [1d\]: o
]
;B[jk]BL[300]OB[10]C[RawDog [1d\]: this is nic
]
;W[mk]WL[296.357]OW[9]C[DonValley [4d?\]: not sure if it works with l13 sente
hungt1 [3k\]: of course don valley, you can play go with homeless ppl on every asian country, thats why asian good at go ... go is everywhere and easy acess
hungt1 [3k\]: lmao
Renovate [-\]: I didnt say it didnt i said, its valued in the community highest :/
]
;B[kg]BL[282.076]OB[9]C[DonValley [4d?\]: XD
hungt1 [3k\]: :D:D:D
Poney [1d\]: W is a mean little boy, he's torturing black
RawDog [1d\]: k10
twoody [4k\]: Most of my Chinese and Korean friends say they can't pay go because they have to study... So they never learn
York [5d\]: k 10 doesnt work
RawDog [1d\]: tit for tat
RawDog [1d\]: trade
twoody [4k\]: Kind of sad, really.
Hokke [-\]: there are exceptions everywhere.
kadenz: i dont see trade here
hungt1 [3k\]: well twoody, its good cus they can make new ways of making pocket noodles machines
BenSenTen [3k\]: yeah being robbed and slaughtered
x0000 [-\]: l11 
x0000 [-\]: b is short of libs
]
;W[ki]WL[202.984]OW[8]C[RawDog [1d\]: o
hungt1 [3k\]: btw, asians study harder math too?
kcharris12 [1d\]: k10 aji
hungt1 [3k\]: or just origami?
York [5d\]: no
hungt1 [3k\]: :))
RawDog [1d\]: good solution
Hokke [-\]: historically french and germans rule mathematics.
RawDog [1d\]: god who cares
hungt1 [3k\]: agree
BenSenTen [3k\]: math and hard r contradictory
hungt1 [3k\]: Hokke, are you Fan of Robert hokke?
hungt1 [3k\]: LOL
Higanbana [?\]: ...greece hokke
BenSenTen [3k\]: french only rules goose liver
twoody [4k\]: They study more analytically than ppl in the USA. And that means a lot at the college level
hungt1 [3k\]: but what they study?
BenSenTen [3k\]: german rules meat ball
hungt1 [3k\]: metods of studying?
hungt1 [3k\]: methods
Hokke [-\]: sausages
hungt1 [3k\]: and beer
Poney [1d\]: Sad kibitz today : /
RawDog [1d\]: dude right
Nosabe [-\]: germans make the wurst sausage
]
;B[lf]BL[163.622]OB[8]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: asian had sausages long before german
kcharris12 [1d\]: lol
]
;W[li]WL[200.038]OW[7]C[hungt1 [3k\]: are you sure? giant sausage man
DonValley [4d?\]: d6
]
;B[bq]BL[149.95]OB[7]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: history is sad
iwin [2k\]: it's oming
Nosabe [-\]: b in trouble now
mtsay [1k\]: I love how we are trying so hard to pigeon hole 4 billion asian people into one stereotype, totally legit
]
;W[em]WL[188.781]OW[6]C[twoody [4k\]: They study up to calc and linear algebra. But the also do complete analysis of them usually.
]
;B[cp]BL[133.836]OB[6]C[hungt1 [3k\]: so the complete analysis is the best?
ivank [2k\]: what game in this tournament was won by european?
hungt1 [3k\]: like analisys all the joseki variations
hungt1 [3k\]: ?
hungt1 [3k\]: :-))
Higanbana [?\]: among the best, it really doesn't matter what country you are from
Poney [1d\]: S4
]
;W[fn]WL[141.836]OW[5]C[hungt1 [3k\]: isn't isaac newton asian?
hungt1 [3k\]: :p
iwin [2k\]: huh
]
;B[gm]BL[94.084]OB[5]C[York [5d\]: i thought he was an american?
RawDog [1d\]: f6 was nice
Ootakamoku [2d\]: everyone is asian util proven otherwise
Hokke [-\]: ahahahha
RawDog [1d\]: i like how w attacks to fix problems
kadenz: b still leading ?
joenosai [4k\]: lol
wampleek [?\]: s4 is sente right?
]
;W[fo]WL[94.877]OW[4]
;B[rp]BL[90.497]OB[4]C[Nosabe [-\]: b in trouble
hungt1 [3k\]: i realluy like asian medics
Ootakamoku [2d\]: gote
Ootakamoku [2d\]: r18
RawDog [1d\]: yea
kcharris12 [1d\]: big gote
]
;W[ik]WL[58.009]OW[3]
;B[il]BL[86.909]OB[3]
;W[jj]WL[56.466]OW[2]
;B[jl]BL[85.834]OB[2]
;W[fq]WL[52.578]OW[1]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: otherwise w could threaten seki
]
;B[fr]BL[82.824]OB[1]C[hungt1 [3k\]: is it true on asian they still punch kid who mistake lesson at school? :) thats why asians are so good
kcharris12 [1d\]: srry kill...
]
;W[ge]WL[300]OW[10]C[wampleek [?\]: s4 s5 t3 tenuki r7 then?
kcharris12 [1d\]: yeah
xD [2k\]: h19 only move?
RawDog [1d\]: might chase a bit
York [5d\]: L15
RawDog [1d\]: but yea
wampleek [?\]: er r6
hungt1 [3k\]: f15 first
]
;B[fe]BL[300]OB[10]C[hungt1 [3k\]: chase a bit < by good dog
BenSenTen [3k\]: then you should punch yourself more..:P
gobugobu [6d\]: There is a book 'The Bell Curve' that explains what you want to know, hungt1\]
hungt1 [3k\]: i agree ben
hungt1 [3k\]: well i need some ppl for punch me harder
hungt1 [3k\]: so i can be very nice
hungt1 [3k\]: and get to high dan
]
;W[gf]WL[267.32]OW[9]C[wampleek [?\]: s4 seemed sente to me
York [5d\]: how to get to high dan? :S
hungt1 [3k\]: punching me?
]
;B[ke]BL[280.587]OB[9]C[Rukis [2k\]: o.o
RawDog [1d\]: play high dans
Poney [1d\]: Yeah me too, why didn't w play this S4 : /
RawDog [1d\]: lol
hungt1 [3k\]: haha
Rukis [2k\]: wasnt york like 2k a few hours ago?
York [5d\]: 4k
hungt1 [3k\]: well york started go today
manofearth [?\]: then kill
hungt1 [3k\]: he is genius already 5d
Rukis [2k\]: close lol
]
;W[qb]WL[224.069]OW[8]C[hungt1 [3k\]: studying much makes ppl crazy?
RawDog [1d\]: now all about sente moves
]
;B[rb]BL[261.23]OB[8]C[hungt1 [3k\]: or makes ppl depressed?
kcharris12 [1d\]: s13 big
RawDog [1d\]: thats y w s13 no that good
hungt1 [3k\]: thats why asian never laugh
]
;W[ra]WL[215.86]OW[7]C[hungt1 [3k\]: they are very depressed
hungt1 [3k\]: lol
RawDog [1d\]: but is gote
gobugobu [6d\]: w o2 is big as k13 
Hokke [-\]: hahaha
gobugobu [6d\]: w b13 doesn't work, which is a pity
]
;B[sb]BL[217.03]OB[7]C[hungt1 [3k\]: hey hokke
hungt1 [3k\]: are you asian?
Hokke [-\]: nope
hungt1 [3k\]: :(
]
;W[mr]WL[195.753]OW[6]
;B[lr]BL[213.777]OB[6]
;W[ns]WL[191.394]OW[5]C[iwin [2k\]: n2 really better than o2?
Poney [1d\]: Has a big follow up 
RawDog [1d\]: guess hes shooting for w l3
hungt1 [3k\]: c14 is 95 points
Poney [1d\]: minimum
]
;B[co]BL[118.927]OB[5]C[xD [2k\]: c14 is not 95 points....
]
;W[cn]WL[177.991]OW[4]
;B[bp]BL[117.664]OB[4]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: ooh
York [5d\]: ouch
momNdead:     
RawDog [1d\]: nice move
RawDog [1d\]: moves
]
;W[bn]WL[134.897]OW[3]
;B[ls]BL[106.261]OB[3]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: t3
]
;W[rg]WL[101.116]OW[2]C[wampleek [?\]: k13
York [5d\]: SE says B+33, time to res
]
;B[qg]BL[100.955]OB[2]C[RawDog [1d\]: lol
ghjj: all pro move but b ahead a lot
RawDog [1d\]: id guess more like 10 or 15
]
;W[hj]WL[54.784]OW[1]C[Poney [1d\]: c14 
HappyLook [5d\]: very close game..
kcharris12 [1d\]: b13 <.<
Coloratura [1k\]: s12
RawDog [1d\]: new zealen rules
]
;B[cg]BL[33.789]OB[1]C[iwin [2k\]: i count <5
RawDog [1d\]: i didnt know that existed
]
;W[jg]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[bc]BL[300]OB[10]
;W[bb]WL[294.404]OW[9]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: w b13?
]
;B[da]BL[276.197]OB[9]C[Poney [1d\]: b19
RawDog [1d\]: thats the ticket
goforforgo [3k\]: b is not alive yet
goforforgo [3k\]: h18
RawDog [1d\]: he is
]
;W[ba]WL[251.766]OW[8]C[sixrusses [5k\]: h19?
RawDog [1d\]: k15 miai
York [5d\]: K15 H19 miai
leffy [2d\]: nz or our rules?`
RawDog [1d\]: nz
]
;B[sg]BL[216.816]OB[8]
;W[qf]WL[243.555]OW[7]C[Rukis [2k\]: g17 isnt alive yet?
seihn [?\]: (it is)
Rukis [2k\]: theres a ko?
leffy [2d\]: a ko
]
;B[rh]BL[175.057]OB[7]
;W[qg]WL[240.453]OW[6]C[RawDog [1d\]: its jsut alive
mtsay [1k\]: Rukis: see above discussion, tldr : K15 H19 miai
]
;B[rd]BL[169.726]OB[6]C[manofearth [?\]: ever heardof miai?
]
;W[kh]WL[214.997]OW[5]C[York [5d\]: is that a name of a japanese girl?
Rukis [2k\]: maybe i just opened the game up
]
;B[lg]BL[160.382]OB[5]C[RawDog [1d\]: haha
]
;W[hk]WL[205.964]OW[4]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: a11
Poney [1d\]: what for ?
]
;B[df]BL[106.878]OB[4]C[RawDog [1d\]: yea what for
Poney [1d\]: Fake suji throwing powder move
kcharris12 [1d\]: a11 a12 a13
]
;W[fg]WL[181.617]OW[3]C[BrockGo [?\]: a11 b10
]
;B[eq]BL[97.2]OB[3]
;W[gn]WL[150.133]OW[2]
;B[hn]BL[94.171]OB[2]C[RawDog [1d\]: like the idea though
]
;W[hl]WL[142.841]OW[1]
;B[hm]BL[92.509]OB[1]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: a11 b10 a13 before d14
]
;W[ao]WL[300]OW[10]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: w gets c14 e14
Rukis [2k\]: b10 makes no sense
]
;B[sr]BL[300]OB[10]C[RawDog [1d\]: uhh
Poney [1d\]: C14 w couldn't play it kcharris
Poney [1d\]: b would D14
Utraman1k [-\]: lets go sume!
Coloratura [1k\]: w+1.5
Rukis [2k\]: ^
RawDog [1d\]: oh
RawDog [1d\]: ultraman
]
;W[lo]WL[261.361]OW[9]C[Utraman1k [-\]: watsup
RawDog [1d\]: u 2 should play next
]
;B[kp]BL[282.965]OB[9]C[Poney [1d\]: sorry but A11 isjust a fake suji here ^^
Utraman1k [-\]: lol, i already played my round for this tourney
RawDog [1d\]: ohh
kcharris12 [1d\]: i don't think d14 works for b then
RawDog [1d\]: did u win
]
;W[pl]WL[212.247]OW[8]C[Utraman1k [-\]: yea
York [5d\]: all painful sente endgame moves
Utraman1k [-\]: i got lucky :D
RawDog [1d\]: nice
]
;B[qn]BL[260.39]OB[8]C[RawDog [1d\]: then i will watch ur next gam
hkkyeen [?\]: reallyreally close
Utraman1k [-\]: lol
Utraman1k [-\]: cmon sume got this
]
;W[je]WL[181.243]OW[7]C[sixrusses [5k\]: k15 sente for w?
York [5d\]: w aiming for the ko
York [5d\]: b h19 l16 m15 j16
sixrusses [5k\]: w played while i was writiing :-)
sixrusses [5k\]: thx york
York [5d\]: oops, should simply j16 first
York [5d\]: to be taking first at ko
RawDog [1d\]: wait what ko
Ootakamoku [2d\]: the imaginary one
RawDog [1d\]: ok
York [5d\]: B h19 j16 h16 h15 k16 l16
hkkyeen [?\]: this game might be a draw lol
York [5d\]: but i didnt count the points
iwin [2k\]: i think w+2?
]
;B[jb]BL[136.944]OB[7]C[DonValley [4d?\]: i draw would be very awkward
]
;W[ja]WL[169.828]OW[6]C[RawDog [1d\]: oh
RawDog [1d\]: i c the ko
]
;B[id]BL[117.549]OB[6]C[dxxd [3k\]: no ko, since the miai with e14, yes
York [5d\]: ah
York [5d\]: right
]
;W[hb]WL[145.034]OW[5]C[RawDog [1d\]: b still habe e14 as last resort
RawDog [1d\]: which is ko
York [5d\]: i was on another game
]
;B[ee]BL[100.44]OB[5]C[Utraman1k [-\]: i think sume got dis, his yose is really really good
RawDog [1d\]: oh not ko lol
]
;W[ap]WL[110.804]OW[4]C[Utraman1k [-\]: but then there arent many valuable move sleft on teh board
]
;B[hf]BL[82.724]OB[4]
;W[hg]WL[104.604]OW[3]
;B[oc]BL[76.436]OB[3]
;W[ob]WL[101.802]OW[2]
;B[ms]BL[71.813]OB[2]
;W[nr]WL[97.266]OW[1]
;B[no]BL[70.172]OB[1]
;W[oo]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[ln]BL[300]OB[10]
;W[mn]WL[288.293]OW[9]
;B[qa]BL[289.203]OB[9]
;W[pa]WL[285.182]OW[8]
;B[ha]BL[285.201]OB[8]
;W[kb]WL[283.021]OW[7]C[iwin [2k\]: dang this is so close
]
;B[ep]BL[253.087]OB[7]C[RawDog [1d\]: w can still chip away a few points
]
;W[eo]WL[276.069]OW[6]C[jsnd [4k\]: why is se saying b+16
DonValley [4d?\]: i really hope its not a jigo
]
;B[gj]BL[246.504]OB[6]C[iwin [2k\]: haha
Utraman1k [-\]: it seems like b is leading by like 4-5 tho
]
;W[gi]WL[268.189]OW[5]C[RawDog [1d\]: g10 gote
]
;B[ho]BL[243.15]OB[5]
;W[aq]WL[258.58]OW[4]
;B[ar]BL[240.005]OB[4]C[DonValley [4d?\]: s11 shoulda been played for b
]
;W[ri]WL[246.633]OW[3]
;B[sh]BL[236.615]OB[3]C[hkkyeen [?\]: nooooo
hkkyeen [?\]: w loses a point here
iwin [2k\]: why
RawDog [1d\]: d0 
]
;W[dj]WL[224.658]OW[2]C[RawDog [1d\]: d10*
]
;B[di]BL[222.843]OB[2]
;W[af]WL[215.662]OW[1]
;B[ag]BL[218.817]OB[1]
;W[ae]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[ce]BL[300]OB[10]
;W[ac]WL[294.372]OW[9]C[RawDog [1d\]: c15 was nice
]
;B[sl]BL[275.782]OB[9]C[hkkyeen [?\]: still really really close
BenSenTen [3k\]: by 0.5?
iwin [2k\]: no .5 komi
Utraman1k [-\]: yea
BenSenTen [3k\]: by 0?
ggsutton [6k\]: where is the score estimate wrong
]
;W[si]WL[204.922]OW[8]C[RawDog [1d\]: cause its NZ rules
]
;B[sf]BL[272.397]OB[8]C[hkkyeen [?\]: no actually b+ now
]
;W[ff]WL[197.67]OW[7]C[jsnd [4k\]: is NZ like chinese rules? how could it be so off
RawDog [1d\]: yea i think so
gruenwald [2d\]: b+4
BenSenTen [3k\]: new zealand?
]
;B[rs]BL[243.106]OB[7]C[RawDog [1d\]: yea
]
;W[qs]WL[194.059]OW[6]
;B[sq]BL[239.405]OB[6]C[jytsao [-\]: SE says 15
]
;W[qj]WL[190.63]OW[5]
;B[ss]BL[236.865]OB[5]
;W[sj]WL[188.86]OW[4]
;B[de]BL[234.043]OB[4]
;W[bd]WL[185.895]OW[3]
;B[ga]BL[232.678]OB[3]
;W[ia]WL[183.182]OW[2]C[RawDog [1d\]: eventually b must t16
DonValley [4d?\]: i hope they dont forget to fill all the dame
leffy [2d\]: neutral points must be taken
BenSenTen [3k\]: nz rules are lams rules
]
;B[jd]BL[218.598]OB[2]C[iwin [2k\]: are dame points in nz
BenSenTen [3k\]: lambs
RawDog [1d\]: agreed ben
DonValley [4d?\]: yes
]
;W[kd]WL[165.203]OW[1]
;B[le]BL[216.705]OB[1]C[jytsao [-\]: ?
]
;W[nb]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[ea]BL[300]OB[10]C[jytsao [-\]: why?
]
;W[ca]WL[287.613]OW[9]C[RawDog [1d\]: oh i thought u said lame
]
;B[se]BL[296.235]OB[9]
;W[qa]WL[284.446]OW[8]
;B[pc]BL[294.617]OB[8]C[BenSenTen [3k\]: ))
hkkyeen [?\]: +3 i think
DonValley [4d?\]: black gets 1 point from dame as well
]
;W[sa]WL[251.925]OW[7]C[iwin [2k\]: aw
]
;B[hd]BL[292.33]OB[7]
;W[he]WL[243.932]OW[6]C[Utraman1k [-\]: :(
]
;B[ef]BL[290.507]OB[6]
;W[fl]WL[239.562]OW[5]
;B[gl]BL[288.416]OB[5]
;W[]WL[239.517]OW[4]C[leffy [2d\]: if b plays last move he gets 1 more point than in Japanese rules
xD [2k\]: which is why komi is half a point higher
leffy [2d\]: no thats for different reasons
xD [2k\]: what reasons?
leffy [2d\]: we like draws!
jsnd [4k\]: well you just as easily could say its a half point lower
jsnd [4k\]: than 7
]
;B[]BL[180.683]OB[4]TW[aa][ka][la][ma][na][oa][ab][jb][lb][mb][bc][cc][dc][ad][gg][fh][hh][ih][jh][hi][ii][ji][ni][oi][pi][ij][lj][mj][nj][oj][pj][cl][dl][cm][dm][an][dn][en][pq][or][pr][os][ps]TB[fb][rc][sc][qd][sd][oe][re][cf][mf][of][bg][mg][ah][bh][ai][ci][aj][bj][qm][sm][in][jn][rn][sn][io][jo][ro][so][hp][ip][jp][sp][cq][hq][iq][jq][kq][lq][br][er][gr][hr][ir][jr][kr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks]C[sume [7d?\]: gg
DonValley [4d?\]: thanks for playing!!
drakula [?\]: thank you
DonValley [4d?\]: great game
sume [7d?\]: ~_~ my endgame
BenSenTen [3k\]: gg
ivank [2k\]: gg
York [5d\]: how do they count by nz rule?
RawDog [1d\]: great game
leffy [2d\]: same as chinese
BenSenTen [3k\]: by fingers
Jna [1k\]: thanks for playing 
York [5d\]: you wont have both >180.5 in chinese rule
Utraman1k [-\]: good game
fgdfgdf: w is over 180 due to komi
Jna [1k\]: and congratulations to US/Can to overall win in this year's match
capnattack [6k\]: Jna, is this some tournament?
capnattack [6k\]: if so, do you have a link?
Jna [1k\]: see info in TransAtlantic Youth Go Tournament room
capnattack [6k\]: k ty
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