(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2021-01-23]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/30394268]
GN[Euro Pro League Round 5]
PB[Avtikh]
PW[Palko]
BR[?]
WR[27k]
TM[600]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
RE[W+R]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
C[Avtikh: have a nice game!
Palko: have a nice game!
AndriiKravets: \[object Object\]
guest341: nice
]
;B[jj]
C[guest341: nice
]
(;W[qc]
C[jillgoodgal: aha no corner opening here
]
(;B[dp]
(;W[qq]
(;B[pd]
(;W[qd]
(;B[pe]
(;W[ob]
C[Trevoke: "Hmm, I'm playing against someone who likes kos ... Better use tengen to make sure we're gonna be fighting."
]
(;B[nq]
C[jillgoodgal: win the ladders
]
(;W[po]
C[B2 Bomber: let's hope an OGS bug doesn't decide this game
]
(;B[de]
C[Trevoke: Make sure no one's got their elbow close to the power button then
]
(;W[cj]
C[guest341: oh wai is that what caused the timeout?
B2 Bomber: apparently server-side latency
]
(;B[cl]
C[Trevoke: Probably, yeah
]
(;W[cg]
C[B2 Bomber: this is a persistent bug that have lost me some games too
Trevoke: I can't remember in what language the backend is coded but ... I'm not sure it's the right choice for something that needs this kind of distributed low latency operation
B2 Bomber: and the player doesn't have a clue because the latencies are not showing anywhere
Trevoke: I'd reach for Elixir or Erlang for something like this
B2 Bomber: just the result->timeout
]
(;B[bf]
(;W[dc]
C[B2 Bomber: Trevoke: the backend is proprietary and only 1 programmer currently develops it
]
(;B[fd]
C[B2 Bomber: so it's up to this one person to fix it
Trevoke: I'm aware, neither of these two things impact what I'm saying
5star: Fischer time does avoid timeouts. Choose n secondsa move and add in a few minutes, will overcome most timeouts.
美国唐杰: I mean, the players can just continue the game. The bug doesn't actually decide the game.
]
(;W[bd]
C[B2 Bomber: you are shown the AI graph and comments after the game is finished though?
美国唐杰: Thus is very un-Ali like
]
(;B[be]
C[jillgoodgal: yes Ali trying something different
]
(;W[cd]
(;B[df]
(;W[dg]
C[美国唐杰: What game number is this?
jillgoodgal: first game
jillgoodgal: Pavol wins he gets in the finals
ronin3: w eyeing F14
jillgoodgal: loses he is out
]
(;B[fb]
C[美国唐杰: Thought it was Bo3?
美国唐杰: Where did Ali already get an extra win
]
(;W[eb]
C[jillgoodgal: it is best of 3
jillgoodgal: Ali already cannot make the finals
美国唐杰: I say "extra" But you know what I mean
]
(;B[di]
C[jillgoodgal: I mean if Pavol wins the day
jillgoodgal: if Pavol wins this game and one more today, he is in the finals
jillgoodgal: or loses and wins the next two
]
(;W[ci]
(;B[eg]
(;W[dl]
C[Trevoke: are the time controls right? I thought they were supposed to use Fischer time? Or is it players' choice?
]
(;B[cm]
(;W[eh]
(;B[dh]
(;W[ch]
(;B[fh]
C[jillgoodgal: it is correct
jillgoodgal: these are fast games
]
(;W[dm]
C[Trevoke: wow
omeara: why can ali not make the finals?
]
(;B[ei]
(;W[cn]
C[jillgoodgal: he has only one win so he cannot get to 3
]
(;B[bn]
(;W[co]
C[omeara: thanks
jillgoodgal: this is his last best of three of this season
]
(;B[bo]
(;W[cp]
C[美国唐杰: I was thinking this was grand prix... so I was confused.
美国唐杰: Makes sense now
]
(;B[bp]
C[Trevoke: yeah me too
]
(;W[cq]
(;B[dk]
(;W[ck]
(;B[bk]
C[Zaphodian: W is gonna die here
]
(;W[bq]
C[美国唐杰: .-. How sure are you Rob?
]
(;B[ap]
(;W[jq]
(;B[dn]
(;W[en]
(;B[do]
(;W[dq]
(;B[fo]
(;W[em]
C[美国唐杰: Whites dieing everywhere now
denisweber90: Who is black?
jillgoodgal: Ali
]
(;B[fp]
C[denisweber90: tx
guest341: wow relly
]
(;W[dj]
C[guest341: i thoguht he'd e9 and let w capture d5
]
(;B[er]
C[美国唐杰: No need
]
(;W[fj]
C[美国唐杰: Even whites not straight up alive on the left
]
(;B[lq]
C[guest341: well i didnt expect this directino at all a couple of moves ago :)
]
(;W[jo]
C[jillgoodgal: Ali saying I am going to kill something, I do not care which
]
(;B[ip]
(;W[jp]
(;B[gm]
C[jillgoodgal: make white run to the center
]
(;W[mn]
(;B[fl]
(;W[fi]
(;B[ek]
(;W[ej]
(;B[lo]
(;W[ln]
(;B[kn]
(;W[ko]
(;B[mo]
(;W[nn]
(;B[kr]
(;W[gr]
(;B[fr]
(;W[jm]
(;B[km]
(;W[kl]
(;B[lm]
(;W[jn]
C[美国唐杰: Literally Pavol just gave Ali the largest corner ever. Probably worth 2 of his corners.
]
(;B[ll]
C[美国唐杰: This is such an odd gamw
]
(;W[kk]
(;B[lk]
(;W[kj]
C[jillgoodgal: Ali has to read more quickly now
]
(;B[jl]
(;W[jr]
(;B[no]
(;W[on]
C[omeara: Black hasn’t played a single stone that felt like it was against his will
]
(;B[pq]
(;W[pr]
(;B[pp]
(;W[qp]
(;B[or]
(;W[op]
(;B[oq]
(;W[il]
(;B[jk]
C[jillgoodgal: so far he has not given one ko
guest341: i don't think ali fears the ko ^^\\
]
(;W[ki]
(;B[ji]
(;W[mj]
C[jillgoodgal: now the net
]
(;B[nl]
C[美国唐杰: The only good ko is a dead ko Kappa
]
(;W[jh]
(;B[hi]
(;W[nk]
(;B[ol]
(;W[pk]
(;B[pl]
(;W[qk]
(;B[ql]
(;W[rk]
(;B[ok]
(;W[oj]
C[guest341: well this is kinda akward
tekken8: this is crazy. what is black doing?
]
(;B[rl]
C[guest341: maybe thinknig of the cuts
]
(;W[ml]
C[Trevoke: He needs more liberties for ... something?
jillgoodgal: must be trying to kill K4
]
(;B[mm]
C[guest341: is iths your ko :D
guest341: oh
Aurghnost: i think white will never let black kill K4
]
(;W[qn]
(;B[mk]
(;W[nj]
(;B[lj]
(;W[li]
(;B[mi]
C[guest341: oh here coe the cuts :D
jillgoodgal: cut everywhere and hope
]
(;W[nm]
(;B[ml]
C[tekken8: how does this work?
guest341: well hopefully
]
(;W[kh]
C[guest341: i'm cheering for b :p
tekken8: q10 cut just a ladder
]
(;B[pj]
(;W[pi]
(;B[oi]
(;W[qj]
(;B[ni]
(;W[pj]
(;B[ng]
(;W[pg]
C[guest341: ok i've no idea what's going on :)
]
(;B[eh]
C[guest341: maybe b can get a couple of moves at the top? is that the hope
]
(;W[gh]
(;B[ih]
C[jillgoodgal: trying to kill the left now
Trevoke: B trying to activate the handicap stones
tekken8: if black o8 dies, white has about 60 pts in right and bottom
tekken8: maybe more 
]
(;W[jf]
C[jillgoodgal: pretty sure O8 dies
]
(;B[if]
(;W[je]
C[omeara: It was strange that Black made that pot so big
]
(;B[ff]
C[Zaphodian: Nonsense, not "pretty sure" - 100% sure.
omeara: \[object Object\]
tekken8: now the top right black is in danger
tekken8: what in the world is going on
]
(;W[fk]
(;B[gk]
C[Zaphodian: every trick is on display
tekken8: no..
]
(;W[el]
(;B[bj]
(;W[gn]
(;B[fn]
(;W[fm]
(;B[gl]
(;W[hj]
C[jillgoodgal: if black can trick white into getting K4 below five liberties
]
(;B[hk]
C[death_taxes: wth is this game!
death_taxes: i love it
Zaphodian: Hmmm, is he gonna look away for 3 moves?
spark65: this is too bloody
]
(;W[ik]
(;B[gj]
C[Zaphodian: but he will sac 4 stones
]
(;W[ij]
C[Zaphodian: W will
]
(;B[gi]
C[Zaphodian: so B will
]
(;W[ii]
C[spark65: white might be able to kill black in the entire top right
death_taxes: too much space 
]
(;B[qe]
C[spark65: but white is very thick
death_taxes: and b doesn't need to save all the stones
]
(;W[nc]
C[spark65: tru, since black got sente here probably very hard for white to attack well
death_taxes: well...
tekken8: going for the kill now
spark65: depends how aggressive white is
death_taxes: now now it's getting tricky
]
(;B[pc]
(;W[pb]
C[death_taxes: i was thinking instead of R15 sth like M16 M17
]
(;B[qh]
(;W[ph]
(;B[qg]
C[RSEZ: \[object Object\]
]
(;W[ne]
C[spark65: the dead black group has many liberty left so its pretty hard, just gotta be careful with those liberties
tekken8: honestly OGS score estimator is dumb
]
(;B[pf]
C[tekken8: its showing d7 group is alive still
]
(;W[ri]
(;B[rd]
(;W[rc]
(;B[rf]
C[jillgoodgal: ko!
spark65: i need katago
]
(;W[sd]
(;B[rh]
C[tekken8: hmm..
]
(;W[of]
(;B[og]
C[spark65: i'm bad n lazy at counting liberties. If I was white I'll be so scared
]
(;W[mg]
C[jillgoodgal: still more than 5
Zaphodian: Why would W do this? Adrenaline-junkie?
]
(;B[nf]
C[jillgoodgal: wow if black gets out on top
]
(;W[oe]
(;B[mf]
(;W[oh]
C[tekken8: you hv to admit their time is quite low for such complex reading
]
(;B[nh]
C[spark65: white is getting rid of its liberty too
]
(;W[lf]
C[jillgoodgal: does not seem possible
]
(;B[me]
(;W[md]
C[Zaphodian: He should have played P14 at P13
Zaphodian: but it's still not gonna work
]
(;B[le]
(;W[ld]
(;B[si]
C[spark65: whit wat
Zaphodian: B resigns now
spark65: og
spark65: omg
]
(;W[sj]
C[Zaphodian: nothing to be done.
]
(;B[lg]
(;W[kf]
C[spark65: this was very fun
]
(;B[re]
(;W[sh]
C[Zaphodian: Where is the fat lady when you need one?
]
(;B[sg]
C[death_taxes: dead in gote
omeara: I feel like Black had the lead but kept clawing and fighting and running weak groups
]
(;W[qr]
(;B[oo]
(;W[hh]
C[Volker_S_Halstenbek: she's at the pizza shop, Zaphod
]
(;B[hn]
(;W[hf]
C[jillgoodgal: now white has half the board
Zaphodian: that makes sense to make it back home before the curfew comes down on us
]
(;B[he]
(;W[ie]
(;B[cb]
(;W[bb]
C[Volker_S_Halstenbek: right now, this is not planned here, but who knows what politics will decide tomorrow :-)
]
(;B[ic]
(;W[bg]
C[tekken8: curfew?
]
(;B[ah]
(;W[hd]
C[tekken8: where are you staying Zaph?
]
(;B[ge]
(;W[id]
(;B[gc]
(;W[hc]
(;B[hb]
C[Zaphodian: Netherlands right now
]
(;W[ib]
C[Zaphodian: B is aiming at B19 A18 D18
]
(;B[ab]
C[Zaphodian: or something like that :-)
]
(;W[cc]
C[Zaphodian: ko
Volker_S_Halstenbek: now thats a nicsuji
]
(;B[ad]
C[Volker_S_Halstenbek: :-)
]
(;W[ac]
(;B[bc]
(;W[hq]
C[tekken8: gg
]
(;B[go]
(;W[ac]
C[Zaphodian: Palko must have been been sleeping like me 
Zaphodian: If B B19 C17 would have made life anyway
]
(;B[ia]
C[Zaphodian: So he looked at the same thing as I, and only saw that, I'm afraid 
]
(;W[ae]
(;B[jc]
(;W[af]
(;B[ag]
(;W[ad]
(;B[bi]
(;W[kb]
(;B[jb]
(;W[kc]
(;B[od]
(;W[nd]
(;B[ka]
(;W[lb]
(;B[hg]
(;W[gg]
(;B[gf]
(;W[ig]
(;B[hf]
(;W[hp]
(;B[qi]
C[death_taxes: N1?
]
(;W[ke]
(;B[si]
(;W[mh]
(;B[rj]
(;W[sk]
(;B[io]
(;W[ed]
(;B[ee]
(;W[db]
C[Palko: thank you
Avtikh: thx
美国唐杰: Gg
jillgoodgal: that was a fight!
Zoomiewoop: gg, great game
tekken8: thanks for the game. it was fun
shinuito: gg great game :)
Lurid_bolete: \[object Object\]
]
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