(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2021-05-15]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/33734596]
GN[Transatlantik League]
PB[kbag]
PW[AndriiKravets]
BR[?]
WR[?]
TM[1800]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
RE[B+R]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
C[Avtikh: \[object Object\]
libertycap: !
]
;B[pd]
(;W[dp]
(;B[qp]
(;W[dd]
(;B[fq]
(;W[dn]
(;B[eo]
(;W[do]
(;B[dr]
(;W[dk]
(;B[nc]
(;W[op]
(;B[oq]
(;W[nq]
(;B[pq]
(;W[np]
C[S_Alexander: Wow, the time control is very long. I remember these games were short some time ago.
]
(;B[jp]
(;W[qo]
(;B[ro]
(;W[pp]
(;B[rq]
(;W[qn]
(;B[rn]
(;W[qm]
(;B[cc]
(;W[cd]
(;B[dc]
(;W[ed]
(;B[ec]
(;W[fc]
(;B[fb]
(;W[hq]
C[catsittinggie: 30 min + 3x30 is not very long x_x
Nodos: yea that's an average game length
TángJiéHáo: It's still 1.5 to 2h long
catsittinggie: sure, but for a tournament game, it isn't long 
catsittinggie: only 30secs byo
TángJiéHáo: Depending on how quickly/slowly these player play
catsittinggie: instead of 40-60
]
(;B[hp]
(;W[ip]
(;B[io]
(;W[iq]
C[S_Alexander: Last time control was 10m + 30s periods
]
(;B[gp]
(;W[jq]
(;B[fd]
C[TángJiéHáo: Comparatively it's almost an 1h longer than previous games yes
]
(;W[gc]
(;B[gb]
(;W[hc]
(;B[fe]
(;W[bc]
(;B[bb]
(;W[he]
(;B[df]
(;W[be]
C[Chad Thunderredacted: ko?
]
(;B[ac]
C[-Crr-Ake-: possib-
-Crr-Ake-: maybe white could sacrifice and run
]
(;W[cg]
C[S_Alexander: Black by 0.88 SE
-Crr-Ake-: actually it's 0.81
]
(;B[dj]
(;W[fg]
C[Nodos: it changes with every move and everyone can use SE so you don't need to report that
]
(;B[ck]
(;W[cl]
C[-Crr-Ake-: black can play C14 then D13?
-Crr-Ake-: looks possible
]
(;B[dg]
(;W[ch]
(;B[bd]
(;W[ce]
C[qnpnpmqppnp: D13 is already played ?
]
(;B[dh]
C[-Crr-Ake-: that was before
-Crr-Ake-: he played
qnpnpmqppnp: right, sorry.
-Crr-Ake-: dya think W will have trouble? on the B15 group?
catsittinggie: doubt it
catsittinggie: but i would guess has to take gote
Nodos: W has a 3 weak groups that could come under attack on the left side
libertycap: the stream audio is very low?
]
(;W[ci]
C[catsittinggie: there's still cut at e14 so for now the white top two groups are fine i reckon
Ohnonononono: \[object Object\]
catsittinggie: and black might have to let c10 be cut as well
]
(;B[ek]
C[Ohnonononono: i just meant to chat that..sorry
]
(;W[dl]
C[-Crr-Ake-: D4 ain't look weak to me
]
(;B[gg]
C[catsittinggie: it isn't weak but it isn't relaly strong either. a bit wobbly maybe? :D
catsittinggie: but only if black can fix C10 in sente
snail god: noice
qnpnpmqppnp: Yes, it's the new SE
]
(;W[ff]
(;B[gf]
C[-Crr-Ake-: why not E15?
]
(;W[ge]
(;B[ee]
(;W[fh]
C[-Crr-Ake-: B gotta go C10 now?
snail god: maybe to easy for black to make shape from it
BadukGisa: I guess retains good outside shape with G15
catsittinggie: ^ this is what im thinking
catsittinggie: if black has g15 white top shape is pretty horrible
TángJiéHáo: \[object Object\]
]
(;B[gh]
C[Groin: The "live" review by Ali Jabarin is awesome
Groin: thanks
]
(;W[fi]
(;B[di]
C[sovietblobfish: is kbag a new pro? i haven't seen them in competitions before
-Crr-Ake-: nwither have I
TángJiéHáo: Not really
]
(;W[cj]
C[FinrodFelagund: Calvin Sun is an American Pro
derod: North American pro
TángJiéHáo: Calvin just isn't active but also the US doesn't have big tournaments 
]
(;B[fj]
(;W[gi]
C[sovietblobfish: ah
]
(;B[ih]
C[catsittinggie: problems are now 2 for 2 :P
derod: Weak groups...
]
(;W[gl]
C[TángJiéHáo: Something is dieing
catsittinggie: daym, i think white problems just vanished
-Crr-Ake-: rly?
]
(;B[fm]
C[-Crr-Ake-: how
FinrodFelagund: G8 a very strong line. 
shashwat: Oh, I expected G10 first
FinrodFelagund: Black has to cut
catsittinggie: i wonder if black has to just give up on the g12 stones
]
(;W[de]
C[-Crr-Ake-: he didn't
Nodos: katago really doesn't like this last move
FinrodFelagund: Probably because black should give up those three stones?
-Crr-Ake-: a bad shape?
catsittinggie: is it just ajikeshi, or some other form of dislike?
iglizworks: Black can throw away three
-Crr-Ake-: no he cant
catsittinggie: like, does black connect or give up the 3.
syoon: B would not
-Crr-Ake-: those three are cutting stones
-Crr-Ake-: they cut 2 groups
catsittinggie: well, if the g12 stones must be given up anyway, then these 3 stones are worthless
FinrodFelagund: They are important, but if black is in huge trouble....
-Crr-Ake-: if he frees it, he will let white connect all
]
(;B[ef]
C[-Crr-Ake-: g12 are cutting stones as well
-Crr-Ake-: B still has time to run on both groups
FinrodFelagund: But I don't see what D15 accomplishes for white
-Crr-Ake-: it is an even chase
]
(;W[fl]
(;B[el]
(;W[em]
C[-Crr-Ake-: \[object Object\]
]
(;B[en]
(;W[dm]
C[qnpnpmqppnp: going for the kill ?
catsittinggie: but that loses the g12 stones
Paon: H9?
catsittinggie: so two weak groups vanish
]
(;B[gj]
(;W[hi]
C[catsittinggie: which leads back to saving the f15 stones
catsittinggie: which is useless if you give up the g12s
-Crr-Ake-: wow
-Crr-Ake-: tough for black
catsittinggie: black really wants to save the g12s, but i dont know if it is doable
-Crr-Ake-: what do u think is B's move?
syoon: J14 to save
FinrodFelagund: J14 looks like the move
-Crr-Ake-: but then F16 in huge danger
syoon: if middle can live I guess
iglizworks: H12 to pressure white group while saving?
-Crr-Ake-: or bamboo?
catsittinggie: j14 if he can read a way for the f16 to not get stomped
FinrodFelagund: ^^
catsittinggie: but if that leads to j14 ded, then just give up the 3
dieter45: \[object Object\]
-Crr-Ake-: in the first place, yeah
Nodos: H11 is really bad says katago
-Crr-Ake-: but they are cutting stomnes
catsittinggie: they are, but sometimes you are just shit outta luck :D
catsittinggie: and you gotta saw off your own foot to survive
syoon: thats pretty graphic
catsittinggie: so is giving up the 3 stones
catsittinggie: feels real bad :D
FinrodFelagund: \[object Object\]
-Crr-Ake-: \[object Object\]
catsittinggie: goodbye poor leg
-Crr-Ake-: whatis legg?
catsittinggie: (in ffs variation)
Nodos: I wouldn't give up the 3 stones. B is fine because G8 is weak
]
(;B[jg]
C[catsittinggie: ok a bit more interesting way to fix the cut
-Crr-Ake-: wow
catsittinggie: now we find out what white has planned to attack d10 with
-Crr-Ake-: thinks so much then played that
]
(;W[hj]
(;B[hk]
(;W[gk]
C[-Crr-Ake-: he thought it through thouroughly
catsittinggie: so if white just cuts now?
catsittinggie: ok someone did something wrong here
]
(;B[ik]
C[catsittinggie: this can't be acceptable for both
-Crr-Ake-: !!
-Crr-Ake-: okay..
-Crr-Ake-: i think black thought this beforehand
-Crr-Ake-: he must know the path to win
qnpnpmqppnp: G8 stones are not looking great
syoon: seki for center, then kill the upper stones
catsittinggie: when balck played k13 must've read this at least
TángJiéHáo: \[object Object\]
TángJiéHáo: \[object Object\]
TángJiéHáo: White can't force the kill
catsittinggie: unless you are missing something :P
-Crr-Ake-: now i don't think things rly look the best for W
catsittinggie: there is always a tesuji 
Nodos: W has to escape with G8 stones, otherwise no seki just dead
FinrodFelagund: \[object Object\]
-Crr-Ake-: yeaj
catsittinggie: i think white has to get out with H10s? i don't see how both H17 and G8 survive to end of game
TángJiéHáo: \[object Object\]
Nodos: katago thinks this is hopeless for W lol
catsittinggie: yeah , it looks real iffy
TángJiéHáo: I'd have to agree
catsittinggie: you have 3 groups and all of them must survive
catsittinggie: or you are just done
TángJiéHáo: White can't kill or save imho
syoon: taking either group enough
-Crr-Ake-: run with g11 seems good
catsittinggie: if even one dies you are donezo like pulled pork
Nodos: bot shows a variation where W lives with all 3 groups, but B takes a lot in center
-Crr-Ake-: how do u know?
catsittinggie: might be one of those bot variations where it just doesn't care enoguh to kill even though it could :P
Nodos: you can run bots on your computer
FinrodFelagund: \[object Object\]
]
(;W[ej]
(;B[ei]
(;W[gd]
C[-Crr-Ake-: wowww!
FinrodFelagund: oh, white must be sure
syoon: huh
-Crr-Ake-: omg
-Crr-Ake-: thought white was doomed
qnpnpmqppnp: I still think he is 
syoon: am I misreading the ladder?
-Crr-Ake-: what ladder>
-Crr-Ake-: ?
syoon: \[object Object\]
shashwat: g7 i think
FinrodFelagund: \[object Object\]
Ietsie: W takes E15, bl G8
-Crr-Ake-: hmm yeah
Azrail: dont' think that ladder works
catsittinggie: black 3 libs
-Crr-Ake-: WORKS!
]
(;B[ij]
C[Azrail: the atari from h6 lets w out i believe
shashwat: I see it working too :|
Azrail: g6*
-Crr-Ake-: \[object Object\]
-Crr-Ake-: ohhhh dear.
Sadaharu: Seems like GG for white
catsittinggie: not enoguh libs with the center group
-Crr-Ake-: it might be seki in this direction
Azrail: no seki
-Crr-Ake-: how
catsittinggie: then some super magic to save g8 and g 17
-Crr-Ake-: hmmmm
syoon: F8 dies, no seki
JesusR02: 1p is 1dan professional?
Azrail: g8 is fine
catsittinggie: yes
Ietsie: c14
-Crr-Ake-: \[object Object\]
Sadaharu: Even if seki also seems gg
shashwat: yes. 1p is approx 7d?
shashwat: after that professional ranks are a little vaguer
Azrail: yes crr ake
]
(;W[cf]
C[-Crr-Ake-: HE WENT THERW!
qnpnpmqppnp: Here we go
-Crr-Ake-: oohh
Sadaharu: Hm?
]
(;B[gm]
C[syoon: yup
-Crr-Ake-: o 
syoon: G7 is forced
-Crr-Ake-: back to my other varietion
-Crr-Ake-: white can only run
]
(;W[hl]
C[Sadaharu: Now everything is dead...
syoon: W capture a stone latter down the line
syoon: but it still doesn't work
snail god: \[object Object\]
]
(;B[hm]
C[OndraKruml: h7?
-Crr-Ake-: no
-Crr-Ake-: i see
OndraKruml: oops
]
(;W[il]
C[Sadaharu: GG
]
(;B[jl]
C[-Crr-Ake-: whsaaaa
catsittinggie: isn't this fubar for black now?
catsittinggie: or do i miss sometihng
shashwat: why? 
]
(;W[im]
C[shashwat: \[object Object\]
-Crr-Ake-: \[object Object\]
]
(;B[jm]
C[-Crr-Ake-: looks bad for W
TángJiéHáo: \[object Object\]
]
(;W[in]
C[-Crr-Ake-: ohhh dear
OndraKruml: ah works for w, nice
]
(;B[jn]
(;W[hn]
C[-Crr-Ake-: ???
-Crr-Ake-: how
]
(;B[ho]
C[TángJiéHáo: \[object Object\]
]
(;W[fn]
C[shashwat: um
-Crr-Ake-: ???
]
(;B[ii]
C[Sadaharu: Seki and B all connected
catsittinggie: o right but can't play the F9
catsittinggie: ok so now white has to save the top group
catsittinggie: and somehow not let black get much of anything in the center
]
(;W[kd]
C[tzbk: \[object Object\]
OndraKruml: but overall looks like w would have been bvetter of just capturing the one stone
Sadaharu: ?
Sadaharu: Now B can eat the centre stones
jvandenbusken: ?
]
(;B[kp]
C[-Crr-Ake-: tension over
]
(;W[kq]
(;B[hh]
(;W[qf]
C[snail god: time saving move
snail god: ...
]
(;B[kb]
C[Sistina: This is resignable position for white
-Crr-Ake-: B will be putting pressure on H17
]
(;W[md]
C[TángJiéHáo: Tz what if white atari from the otherwise?
-Crr-Ake-: B has such a good wall
Sistina: Territory deficit, weak groups and the formidable black influence in the center
-Crr-Ake-: w on pressure
]
(;B[lc]
(;W[ld]
(;B[pf]
C[mskwcwc: I don't understand....
catsittinggie: white somehow needs to not let black get anything in the center
]
(;W[qe]
C[catsittinggie: or much anything in top right
catsittinggie: and get to play bot left corner yose
-Crr-Ake-: looks so tough
mskwcwc: you see that's why I don't understand
]
(;B[pe]
C[TángJiéHáo: White loss. That center is huge.
]
(;W[qd]
(;B[qc]
(;W[rc]
C[-Crr-Ake-: black is getting a small wall on right
]
(;B[qg]
C[syoon: resign incoming?
]
(;W[qb]
(;B[pc]
C[-Crr-Ake-: a miracle has got to happen for W
catsittinggie: and white still has to worry abou the g17 group
shashwat: my guess is if W had to resign as a result of the wall, W would have already
TángJiéHáo: The issue is whites top group is too weak.
]
(;W[re]
C[-Crr-Ake-: whaa
]
(;B[id]
C[-Crr-Ake-: W gotta lose
TángJiéHáo: \[object Object\]
shashwat: I don't understand S15
-Crr-Ake-: to save W
Sallmard: DeadI
TángJiéHáo: It is better for B, I'd agree
Sallmard: Dead
]
(;W[jb]
C[BadukGisa: shash, do you have a better shape for the corner? other moves leave huge weaknesses
]
(;B[jc]
C[shashwat: I'd be fine with losing r18 for something coming out on the side
]
(;W[kc]
(;B[lb]
C[shashwat: r18 only dies in gote
-Crr-Ake-: hmm white still has a small chance cause of left?
shashwat: \[object Object\]
]
(;W[ic]
(;B[jd]
C[syoon: left isn't even that big
BadukGisa: But this way white still has Q13 cut open for later. I guess he has to be greedy at this point if he wants to win
]
(;W[mc]
(;B[mb]
(;W[nd]
C[Nodos: left would be big if W wasn't dying
shashwat: hmm
-Crr-Ake-: wut W doing
]
(;B[pb]
C[Nodos: hoping for mistakes
FinrodFelagund: Trying to set up a trade
shashwat: left still 3rd line. Not enough to even come close to the center
]
(;W[nb]
C[libertycap: gg
aoirinban: ko lol
aoirinban: oh no
-Crr-Ake-: how ko?
]
(;B[ib]
C[aoirinban: no ko
]
(;W[oc]
C[qnpnpmqppnp: you mean K.O. 
]
(;B[rb]
C[FinrodFelagund: badum tish
]
(;W[sb]
C[-Crr-Ake-: impossible now
]
(;B[ra]
(;W[rg]
C[-Crr-Ake-: H17 all dead
]
(;B[nf]
(;W[mf]
(;B[mg]
C[catsittinggie: starting to be a position where even i would resign, and i rarely do
]
(;W[ng]
C[-Crr-Ake-: same
syoon: I would not want to play you XD
]
(;B[og]
(;W[nh]
(;B[lf]
(;W[me]
C[libertycap: is there going to be a 2nd game?
]
(;B[oh]
C[libertycap: today
-Crr-Ake-: absolute hopeless
-Crr-Ake-: W is still going
]
(;W[ni]
(;B[lg]
C[steel13: after  a short break a 2nd game with changed colours
]
(;W[kk]
C[derod: https://www.eurogofed.org/pros/league.html
]
(;B[oi]
(;W[jk]
(;B[ll]
(;W[lk]
(;B[mk]
(;W[nj]
C[-Crr-Ake-: is W's plan to kill K13 group?
]
(;B[ml]
C[catsittinggie: looks like it
catsittinggie: talking about hail maries
]
(;W[kh]
C[Karthus: Theres no universe where W wins that race though right?
BadukGisa: Probably more like he has given up on this game, going on autopiloting, and gathering his thoughts for the second game
]
(;B[li]
C[catsittinggie: that makes some sense, if the break between games is of fixed length
BadukGisa: Cause black still has to consentrate and be careful
]
(;W[lh]
(;B[mh]
(;W[lj]
(;B[mj]
C[kbag: thanks
AndriiKravets: thanks for the game 
-Crr-Ake-: gg
catsittinggie: nice game
Lemnisc8te: gg
syoon: gg
Mufasa95: Gg
fmansa: Gg
Groin: gg
robertmehl: Gg
]
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